I'll write you a 'how to' on that file mate...

 

also on the cd i sent you there is a refill called 'Nu-House' that has hoovers and buzzer sounds that are kinda like hoovers

cheers, im getting there although i think im going to need some 'artistic' input because i can't make riffs for shit

join the club matey!

QUOTE (Phil B @ May 29 2004, 11:32)

cheers, im getting there although i think im going to need some 'artistic' input because i can't make riffs for shit

neither can most hardhouse producers if we're honnest

hardhouse seems to be more about the energy than anything else these days.

 

basically few hardhouse producers seem to spend ages perfecting their riffs with interesting sounds and fx as the subtelties will be missed in the over all tune. where as in trance, the emphasis is placed more heavily on the riffs so more time has to be spent on them

 

thats the impression i get ne ways. i'm sure ian will correct me if i'm mistaken

i don't know about that, theres many a time where i'll be listening to a tune that i've listened to many times before and notice bits i hadn't heard before. even more now since i'm trying to learn how things are done/put together

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 29 2004, 14:27)

hardhouse seems to be more about the energy than anything else these days. basically few hardhouse producers seem to spend ages perfecting their riffs with interesting sounds and fx as the subtelties will be missed in the over all tune. where as in trance, the emphasis is placed more heavily on the riffs so more time has to be spent on them

could it possible be because *shock horror* they are different styles of music??

 

In that aspect of arguements, I could slag techno off and say its not as good as house music as the producers never spend any time working on vocals...

 

simple fact is, they dont need them - same as hardhouse doesnt need complex riffs and leads like trance does

I know a few really good refills you wanna look out for that has some great hoover samples on. Look out for.

 

Wave Synt'z (Or something like that)

Ronny V's Hard Samples

Zimulator Hoover

cheers, i stumbled across the Zimulator one this afternoon while surfing. i may not even go down the hoover route yet but i'm stocking up with things i may use

QUOTE (Chris Hutchinson @ May 31 2004, 17:19)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 29 2004, 14:27) hardhouse seems to be more about the energy than anything else these days. basically few hardhouse producers seem to spend ages perfecting their riffs with interesting sounds and fx as the subtelties will be missed in the over all tune. where as in trance, the emphasis is placed more heavily on the riffs so more time has to be spent on them could it possible be because *shock horror* they are different styles of music??   In that aspect of arguements, I could slag techno off and say its not as good as house music as the producers never spend any time working on vocals...   simple fact is, they dont need them - same as hardhouse doesnt need complex riffs and leads like trance does want that my point chris   btw chris - i never slated hardhouse. i simply said that complex riff isnt as big an issue with hardhouse   maybe next time you should read the post your quoting more thoroughly before posting a reply

re-read what you put - sounds like you are accusing the people who listen to the stuff as being too stupid to understand whats happening....

i admit it wasnt worded the best way, buit even after re-reading it 3 times i cant see how you drew the conclusion that i was commenting on hardhouse clubbers interlect

 

all i said is the subtelties of complex riffs gets missed in a record thats more about energy than trance.

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 7 2004, 21:52)

all i said is the subtelties of complex riffs gets missed in a record thats more about energy than trance.

Bit of a sweeping generalisation there mate.........

true, and with all genralisations there will be exceptions.