ur views on depression

[Lisa]

's like midwives who have never had kids, with their *come on, stop moaning, it doesnt hurt!!* My fooking arse it dont hurt!! REALLY!"!!!

[Mark]

as alot of you know - i suffered from really bad depression last year - over serveral things, some worse than others - the only mate who i really seen at the time was like oh get over it! - but he couldn't see me practically deteriarating before his eyes - i was very ill, i looked like shit, my whole attitude towards everything changed, it was even strong recommended that i went to hospital! - but all my mate could say it 'ah get over it' as he found out - its not that easy.

 

im feelin flipping wicked now - although the tables of turned - its now my mate who suffers from bad depression, im like now u know how i felt, only alot worse than yours, and then he starts moaning about how his is different, im like no fool theres only one form of depression and thats the depressing kind!

 

personally i wouldn't wish for even my worse enemy for go through what i did, however it would be great if you could give the person that 'depression' feeling for a few minutes just so they know what it feels like, that horrible empty feeling inside which made me wonder why the hell i was on the planet, felt i had no purpose, that i'd lost all etc etc

 

i despise anti-depressant medication - the way i see it, is that its tricking your mind into thinking that its better, but there is no way that a tablet can rid of your problems, so as the tablet fades off u need another, then u need a stronger dosage cause u get used to them, personally i think their worse than most illegal drugs.

 

depression i think is something u cannot userstand unless you've experienced it, and those who say 'just get over it' - lets see if they jsut get over it when they suffer from it later in life, theres no escaping it imo, u'll get it sooner or later.

 

last year was the worst it had ever been, sure i had it before such as when a family member died and such, but last year so many bad things happened one after the other that i almost didn't get through it - but wayhey i have, alot of people tried to talk to me about the various issues, although when i was in my depressed state, i'd listen to no one, it was the tidy weekender which snapped me out of it! after a few hours of being with good mates and in a wicked atmophere it practically disappeared!

[kitty]

just people making u feel worth it can lift u up X100

 

its the destructive people that drag people down too.

 

u need positive people around u.

 

its better to have a few good friends then alot of bad friends.

[big_ee69]

The problem is that people who have never been depressed equate it to how they feel when they are 'down'.

I have it on good authority, that it is much much worse than this. Tho i have (thankfully) never suffered from this.

I agree with Kitty that you almost certainly need positive people around u, for sure, and like any illness wanting to get better, works wonders. But maybe for anything other than the mildest versions either medication or therapy is something worth seriously considering.....Life is short and self-medicating is fine, but everyone is different, and I don't thingk you could self-medicate out of manic depression.

Your average GP willl be worse than useless however, badly trained, in inexperienced in most areas of medicine....better off with a good triage nurse if you ask me. Gp's are woefully inadequte, when it comes to mental illness, and will prescribe wahtever you ask fo just to get rid of u. I'd steer well clear.

Lastly quite how anyone can say that an illness that responds to medication, or theraputic treatment, is something you can 'just snap out of' is beyond me.

 

ian

 

[Mr Moo]

QUOTE (DJ_Elemental @ Feb 11 2004, 10:33 PM)

i despise anti-depressant medication - the way i see it, is that its tricking your mind into thinking that its better, but there is no way that a tablet can rid of your problems, so as the tablet fades off u need another, then u need a stronger dosage cause u get used to them, personally i think their worse than most illegal drugs.

Mark, you should know full well that anti-d medication isnt designed, nor is it there to CURE depression.

 

Its designed to give you that get and up go feeling, just enough so you can put your life back on track. For eg. Go and make an appointment with a counsellor. It sounds so easy, but its not. A tiny little thing like making a phone call or goin to your doctors etc.... It isnt so easy when ur suffering despression.

 

I for one would never like to be the way i was, and feel strongly for people that are suffering.

 

Id also like to make the comment about what Lou and Kitty said.

 

Kitty says you musnt be blunt and musnt be harsh etc.

Lou says you need to be blunt and need to be harsh, but not all the time.

 

When i was @ college, i feel now, that i milked my illness a bit and used it to my advantage when stuff wasnt done on time. I also thought college were to hard on me by not understanding, which i still think they were. But i still think i took the piss. I agree with the point that no one can really understand how u feel unless you've been there.

 

 

I mean this; if anyone needs someone to talk to about advice or opinions. You can talk to Moo.

[mistress_hoover]

ive never suffered from depression (thankfully) but there has been times where i have been very close to it, ive went thru alot of bad shit for being so young but my mum has kept me strong as she is such a strong person.

 

i hate people that are just like 'oh stop moaning' when they dont even know why you are down etc.... Its such a horrible attitude.

 

All of you always know im here if you ever need to chat, i dont mind being randomly called up for a chat...

 

the thing that annoys me is the doctors prescribing anti depressants easily, i went to the doctors as i was taking really bad panic attacks and all i was wanting was an inhaler or something to calm my breathing...he started prescribing anti depressants...so i walked out. My mum ended up calling the doctors and going mad.... I mean, what if i didnt have a clue about things and ended up taking them and fucking up my body for no-reason... what a joke.

 

but yeah..im always here for you guys

[Phil rr]

i wouldn't "take ths piss" from ppl who were saying this...althou i'd want to make sure they were being genuine, as i've had "Stress" recently (actually what i'd describe as stress, feel tired a lot, can't think freely, strange headaches, not just "ahh I'm stressed.."), so i know extremes of feelings can PHYSICALLY affect you.

 

 

[LittleMissLoud]

Big E - the trouble is, is that Nurses are not deemed competant to deal with such issues, only the medical profession is seen as knowledgable enough to deal with it. Never mind that a CPN (Community Psyciatric Nurse) has much more experience in enabling such people to work with their problems, and will have a much better relationship with them.

 

Elemental, you cannot dismiss all anti-depressant medication as shit. It works for some, but just because you didn't find them helpful, doesn't mean they haven't made things better for others.

 

As Drew said, they are not meant to be a wonder cure, and of course they do not get rid of underlying problems, but by treating the symptoms, you sometimes give that person the strength they didn't have before to deal with their issues.

 

They are not meant to make you feel spaced out (although they may do for the first few days), and if they still do after a few weeks, you should consult your GP and ask to change medication.

 

Finally, if you feel your GP is unsupportive, you MUST change GPs. It is your right to have someone who you feel actually wants you to feel better. GPs' are most peoples' first port of call with health issues, and if they do not fill their role as the patient's advocate, then you need to find someone who will.

 

[alasdairm]

QUOTE (kitty @ Feb 11 2004, 11:21 AM)

does anyone else who suffers from this get anoyed when people who dont think its such an easy thing to 'get over' as this girl did?

i agree that depression is a much misunderstood condition and many people do not realise that it goes way beyond just feeling a "a bit down"

 

alasdair

Edited February 12, 2004 by alasdairm

[Lisa]

depression!!!

[Guest Kether]

Properly depressed people can be just as guilty for not understanding the illness as people that have never been depressed.

 

My ex gf refused to do anything about her depression and that's what ultimately fucked up our relationship and fucks up all her friendships because she refuses to face up to the problem and pretends it doesn't exist.

 

It's easy to be ignorant, if someone is ignorant instead of getting on your high horse and trying to say "I was depressed, it was shit," try and educate them without being condescending.

[Guest Shenlong]

QUOTE (big_ee69 @ Feb 12 2004, 12:25 AM)

Your average GP willl be worse than useless however, badly trained, in inexperienced in most areas of medicine....better off with a good triage nurse if you ask me. Gp's are woefully inadequte, when it comes to mental illness, and will prescribe wahtever you ask fo just to get rid of u. I'd steer well clear. ian

you can't just go tarring all Gps with the same brush though, like all professions, you get some people who are beter than others and some GPs who have more experience with it than others.

 

For me, the doctors at home weren't very good for this sorta thing, but the doctors on campus at uni were great and really helped with things, probably cos they saw a lot of this sorta thing at university.

 

As drew and alison have already said. in no way at all are anti-depressants meant to be some sort of miracle cure, they just let you attempt to get your life back on track/try sort out the things that have been making you feel the way that you do.

[kitty]

cheers for ur feedback guys.

 

that girl just got on my boobies and i needed a rant.

 

luckily due to hypnosis im cool now,yet im also very aware it can come back in a millo second. i personally dont agree with prozac,i tried it and i was an unemotional zombie,however this works for some.

 

the same as most of u said, if anyone needs to talk if depressed or whatever im also here.

i have a great empathy for people who suffer these emotional problems,however great.

 

[Lisa]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 11 2004, 08:03 PM)

im with someone that suffers with depression and i suffered with depression since my miscarrige in november (although i didnt know what it was till recently) i can see both sides of this situation, every time he "goes off on one" (as i call it) i tell him strait that the whole world is not against you, but the world doesnt owe you anything either, sitting there dwelling on things only makes you more bitter and twisted, it may sound harsh but some people get pussy footed around way to much and does it really help??????........in his case no it doesnt, because everytime we have the "talk" hes back to the happy cheerfull person that i want to be with, not the person that bores me, is repetitive, deep and sometimes nasty. as for my depression ........as i said it was due to a miscarrige but thats more hormonal more than anything, but still its hard. but i dont bring anyone else down with me, i cope in the way i want and thats to talk to people/doctor and carry on life as normal. and i know that if it wasnt for me telling him to look at his own life and take control of it himself he would be a very lonely man (and very single)

Bloody hell Lou, Im not having a go here, but you sound like someone who hasnt had depression from your reply!!!

 

You may well be suffering from depression from a miscarriage & true your hormones will be all over the place, but that is a seperate issue!!

 

& as you say it may make your b/friend ok, by kicking him up the arse or in the NUTZ, by saying pull it together, but how long does it last???? A week poss more then he is down again?? It is because it is an illness not something that can be shrugged off!!!!!

 

As for your last comment hon, IMO bang outta order!!!!

[Louise]

fair enough, your welcome to your oppinion, but i was talking to him about it today and he went for congatal (sp?) therapy (it helps the way you react with things) and we spoke about this topic and i said i was expecting a slating and he says he agrees with what im saying. (he has no PC at the mo)

 

only him can tell you the truth

 

and if you dont want to beleive me then so be it, im not out to prove myself