ur views on depression

[mistress_hoover]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 11 2004, 08:03 PM)

and i know that if it wasnt for me telling him to look at his own life and take control of it himself he would be a very lonely man (and very single)

thats a horrible thing to say lou, its having an attitude like that - that would cause depression in someone.

 

i honestly never knew phil suffored from depression, he always looks so smiley when i see him...

 

Well tell him he has my support if he ever needs a chat..

[Louise]

if only he had accsess to his pc he would tell you that you are all slateing me for no reason at all.

 

it is HIS way of copeing with it, i did not once say thats how you all have to be to get through it.

 

 

 

 

[Lisa]

Not saying you are a liar Lou, just that on first reading your post, it does come across rather nasty & almost up your arse if you like!! I know that at times it is good to say *come on pull yourself together* & to have it said to you, but it is not a cure!!

 

I just replied to what I saw hon, as you say you have spoke to Phil ref this, had you have stated this then all would be clearer with your comments about him being sad, lonely & single if not for you!! surely you can see why I jumped hon??

[Dawn]

What he believes he'd be lonely and single if it wasn't for you ... PLEASE

[Louise]

his words were "sad & lonely"....not mine (as was i)

 

and i meant he would be single if i had dumped him then, do you really think im that arrogant to think he would stay single if we had never have met.

 

you have took this all out of context

Edited February 12, 2004 by Louise

[Lisa]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 12 2004, 04:52 PM)

his words were "sad & lonely"....not mine (as was i) and i meant he would be single if i had dumped him then, do you really think im that arrogant to think he would stay single if we had never have met. you have took this all out of context

Like I said it has been taken out of context due to your wording Lou!! I can now see where you are coming from etc, but on intitially reading the post, it did not come across like that, the pain of typin emotions eh!!!

[mistress_hoover]

QUOTE (miss_diddy @ Feb 12 2004, 04:55 PM)

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 12 2004, 04:52 PM) his words were "sad & lonely"....not mine  (as was i) and i meant he would be single if i had dumped him then, do you really think im that arrogant to think he would stay single if we had never have met. you have took this all out of context Like I said it has been taken out of context due to your wording Lou!! I can now see where you are coming from etc, but on intitially reading the post, it did not come across like that, the pain of typin emotions eh!!! yeah i was just saying what i thought to the way your phrased it...   ive never looked at a partner and thought 'your lucky to have me' probably thats where im going wrong in relationships.   weve obviously just picked up on your wording wrong.

[Dawn]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 12 2004, 04:52 PM)

his words were "sad & lonely"....not mine  (as was i) and i meant he would be single if i had dumped him then, do you really think im that arrogant to think he would stay single if we had never have met. you have took this all out of context

Taken out of context, I don't think so, i'm sure Phil would just love reading about his private life on a public message board and how he'd be if YOU dumped him.

 

You say you thought you'd get slated for what you've put so how could it have been taken out of context.

 

 

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and i know that if it wasnt for me telling him to look at his own life and take control of it himself he would be a very lonely man (and very single)

 

 

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and i meant he would be single if i had dumped him then, do you really think im that arrogant to think he would stay single if we had never have met.

 

 

[mistress_hoover]

yeah i think it would make him feel a bit low reading this about himself tbh

[Louise]

fair enough, but when he gets acsess to his pc he will say it himself, and not because hes standing up for me but because we talk about his depression every week, more than anything else infact, thats why i feel so strongly about it.

 

its nearly split us up on a few occasions and thats when iv had to tell him the cold hard truth (because thats the only time i have the nerve to)

 

its only him that can tell you how he really feels, but it still doesnt make me feel any better being told im a shit girlfriend when none of you have any idea what we are BOTH really going through

 

ok, it was worded in the worst possible way but tact was never a good point of mine.

 

 

[Louise]

im not gonna defend myself any longer phil knows this is on here and he knows exactly what is on here.

 

hes not ashamed of it and why should he be?

[Lisa]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 12 2004, 05:06 PM)

im not gonna defend myself any longer phil knows this is on here and he knows exactly what is on here. hes not ashamed of it and why should he be?

hey, back down will you, no-one is saying you are ashamed Lou, I was just replying to a comment you made, dont be so defensive, yoiu have explained where you are coming from, so fair do's....

 

But one question what do you mean by cold harsh truth?????????????????

[Dawn]

No he shouldn't be ashamed one little bit ... but I strongly suggest you read your posts and think how others are going to read it before you press that button, end of you could of edited it but you choose not too.

 

 

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hes not ashamed of it and why should he be?

 

It's not his typing or words that is the issue like you say Tact

 

 

[Louise]

cold harsh truth.................that something needed to be done, the medication that he had been on for months wasnt working, in fact it was getting worse, he couldnt see it himself, he thought that sleeping 20 hours a day was normal, etc and that i couldnt cope with it.

[kitty]

can i just say...lou i understand it was written wrong but u did sound harsh,

my ex was like this with me and in the end he used this to his advantage(not saying u do) he'd tell to sort it out or we'd be over( a power thing too) so then i'd pretend to be ok too keep him,however i was not and was getting worse inside.

now we been finished for 2 years im soo happy.

i needed to be low when i could and not 'snap' out of it to not lose someone,

im not saying this is u and ur fella,just saying some people can be extremely harsh and use others depression to get power over them.

 

this isnt what i think of u just that the way u put things it could sound a little like this.