Records that dont stay in time...

[Ian Cashman]

anyone else got records that you find are just an absolute twat to keep in time with others?

 

generic trance and i would imagine most hard house/trance tunes dont have this problem, but i got a few tracks that i just tend to avoid playing cos there is just something about them that just makes them an arse to mix.

 

The new Tiesto album is infected with this curse.

 

main one that just pissed me off is deep dish.

 

oddly quantised records do my fucking head in

[LiquidEyes]

The main problem (in my experience) is when the tracks have different degrees of "swing". I.e. the odd 16th notes on one tune come a bit later than those in the other.

 

Also, in some very loop-based tracks, a key loop is not exactly in time with the rest of the percussion. This can sound really cool (drawing attention to the use of the loop) but can be a twat to mix.

 

The upshot is, even if they are exactly in time, it fools your "DJing ear" because it sounds like the tracks are slipping out of sync!

[Ian Cashman]

bastard things GRRRRR!!!!

[Guest Kether]

Shuffle!

[Ian Cashman]

i think its different drum parts quantised differently (different degrees of shuffle).

 

given up planning a new cd tonight its winding me up that much.

 

Deep Dish.... fuck you.

 

..and Tiesto...

 

 

Bastards

[Aaron]

PvD - For an Angel is one I *always* fuck up

[Phil B]

ive had the same problem with a few of my favourite older tracks, and ive had a few pressings recently where on the lead out 4 beats go out of time before it settles back into the same timing, so a push or pull is needed which sounds wank!

[Sarah C]

i thought that psychout by anne savage was a twat like that...

but its not that bad, just turns out that my speakers (new big ones for my bday !) are too low to even hear my mixing - theyre practically on the floor

 

so it was just me, that couldnt mix lol!

 

thats another thing.... any of u DJs ever played ina club where the monitors dont work or they are ina really shite position?

 

its not much of a problem cos you can always mix in the headphones but monitors help...

[Aaron]

The club i play in didnt have a monitor for about 4 months, now they've got one i dont use it!

[Sarah C]

typical eh lol

[Ian Cashman]

my djing nightmare is shit monitors

[LiamStyles]

*Diva style tantrum*

 

Have played so many shit venue with crap monitors, or in some cases no monitors. I just cant enjoy my set when you have to struggle to even pull off a mix in time.

[Aaron]

I should get used to playing with monitors again really...hopefully one day i'll end up in other venues soon *touch wood* and will need it!

[LiamStyles]

I like my monitors LOUD! I like to dance just as much as the crowd, so loud monitors are a must.

 

Not so great for the potential tinitus though

[Ian Cashman]

QUOTE (LiamStyles @ May 20 2004, 21:36)

*Diva style tantrum* Have played so many shit venue with crap monitors, or in some cases no monitors. I just cant enjoy my set when you have to struggle to even pull off a mix in time.