Differences Between Sequencers

[Rob D]

I found out about Steinberg from somebody in the know, though they shot themselves in the foot by issuing the first crack for cubase sx. If you look at their sales and profits they are low sales and losses not profits. How many people can honestly say they bought their copy of cubase? As a consequence they are going under. So really for a serious sequencer the options are limited - like buy a mac and get logic or pro tools.

[Ian Cashman]

Rob D said:

So really for a serious sequencer the options are limited - like buy a mac and get logic or pro tools.

 

[Scream]

mod since i've started to use logic i want to use it on the mac as logic 6 is pretty sweet. so i think it's totally worth it. as i can tell with you.

 

LOGIC

[Guest]

I think Music on the PS1 is the mutts nuts!

[ReBirth]

liquideyes said:

 

Funny how most of the "opinionated" people sticking up for Fruity, have never used a "proper" sequencer like Logic or Cubase! (not in anger anyway)

 

Well, I stick up for Fruity and I can use, and know Logic, Cubase and ProTools inside-out.

 

Fruity is a dream to work with if your making danc emusic...if you're recording bands etc then Protools is the way to go....if u can be aresed sheeling out for the hardware....

 

Just stick to whatever works for you, and stop slagging of other applications.

[Scream]

ReBirth said:

liquideyes said:

 

Funny how most of the "opinionated" people sticking up for Fruity, have never used a "proper" sequencer like Logic or Cubase! (not in anger anyway)

 

Well, I stick up for Fruity and I can use, and know Logic, Cubase and ProTools inside-out.

 

Fruity is a dream to work with if your making danc emusic...if you're recording bands etc then Protools is the way to go....if u can be aresed sheeling out for the hardware....

 

Just stick to whatever works for you, and stop slagging of other applications.

 

mate i can honestly say you don't know logic inside out. I've got a mate that teach logic in a college and knows the software amazingly well and still find new things out all the time with it.

 

that statement to me is just a load of bollox as it makes you out to not actually know much about those sequencers in my eyes to make such a statement.

 

The reason you think fruity is a dream is because that's how you prefer it. that's the only reason why, it's the only reason anyone chooses a piece of software of another. but can you honestly say that if we asked a lot of people in the industry they will say that fruity is better??? I mean if it was why isn't fruity the big piece of software and logic, cubase and protools not?

 

fruity is really new compared to the other sequencers and is improving on every release. but it just doesn't cut the mustard at the moment. you can get some pretty good tracks out of it, but it just doesn't compare to the other sequencers in it's abilities.

[LiquidEyes]

Nobody's disputing that you can make good music with Fruity. What I am disputing is idiots who make comments like "what can you do in other sequencers that you can't do in Fruity? Nothing!"

 

I.e. just because they are happy with FL's feature compromise, they think everybody else should be too.

[LiquidEyes]

Rob D said:

How many people can honestly say they bought their copy of cubase?

I did.

 

I agree, the pirates are mostly to blame.

[Wonky]

Claire DC said:

CreamyC said:

liquideyes said:

Claire,

Fruity is not even in the same league as Cubase/Logic. It is a joke to compare them.

 

It's like comparing a sports car to a juggernaut: FL may be very slick and fun to use, but it is nowhere near as feature-packed as Cubase.

 

FL is basically a loop-editing tool, that has been slightly extended over the last couple of years into a half-baked sequencing package.

 

Cubase & Logic were designed as complete virtual studios, to enable simultaneous recording/playback of multiple audio tracks, and MIDI arrangement. E.g. for recording & producing bands etc.

 

Summed up nicely. Slam dunk.

 

So whats your views on the sequencers.. ie ur reasons for agreeing?

 

kev, please explain mate

[DJ Elemental]

Fruityloops = the new generation of Ejay imo

[LiquidEyes]

Meaning what?

[Wonky]

meaning he is above fruity loops i think.

 

he isnt

[DJ Elemental]

meaning that its cheap easy to use commerical software - which in ways is a good thing - i used fuityloops myself for a while.

 

I suppose like any other application in the hands of a adveranced \ professional producer, fruityloops can be used to its full advatages but in the hands of a say a 14 year old its just bunging out [censored]. There was a case in pembrokeshire not so long ago where a boy had made a dance track using fruitloops which in all honesty was abit poo - but hey the lad had never made a choon before in his life - but it was signed by a commerical label - dunno which i'll have to dig the old telegraph out.

 

Point is - i think the fruityloops basics are too basis which is why i associate it as a kiddies toy like dance ejay or what ever.

 

Give a kid something like logic and the manual alone will scare them off

[LiquidEyes]

DJ_Elemental said:

Point is - i think the fruityloops basics are too basis which is why i associate it as a kiddies toy

I don't understand your point...?

 

You judge a program by its results. And I've heard some pretty [censored]-hot stuff come out of Fruity. If it is easy to use, then even better!

[ReBirth]

Scream said:

but can you honestly say that if we asked a lot of people in the industry they will say that fruity is better??? I mean if it was why isn't fruity the big piece of software and logic, cubase and protools not?

 

erm...did u even read my post ? I didn't say Fruity was better than the others

 

Ok, fair enough, I may not know every ickle bit of "all" the appz, but I'd say that I'm pretty well tuned up since SAE's beaten every ounce of knowledge about those sequencers into my tiny little mind in the Audio Engineering diploma.....