ram em in or play em out?

[Mr_Happy]

how do you prefer you tunes played? i tend to ram as many tunes in any given time as i can as i get board with tunes very very quickly. especially considering the style i play tends to be mostly set builder type tunes rather than anthems so i need to pack em in to keep people interested (imo)

 

whats your thoughts?

[LittleMissLoud]

Well, I don't like leaving tunes to the last beats, but I think if you bring tunes in too early, they can sound like there is too much going on (well, in the type of stuff I play)

 

I think there is a kind of 'right' time with hard dance to bring stuff in, due to the formula of the genre, and as one tune starts to die out (i.e some of the elements disappear), the tune you are bringing in starts to get busier, and this is quite good for long mixes.

[Phil rr]

depends, dunnit...if you've dropped a floor filler which is really working, you might play all 7 minutes of it before moving on... or if you want to make part of a set fast n furious, change tunes rapidly?

[Mr_Happy]

LittleMissLoud said:

Well, I don't like leaving tunes to the last beats, but I think if you bring tunes in too early, they can sound like there is too much going on (well, in the type of stuff I play)

 

I think there is a kind of 'right' time with hard dance to bring stuff in, due to the formula of the genre, and as one tune starts to die out (i.e some of the elements disappear), the tune you are bringing in starts to get busier, and this is quite good for long mixes.

 

ah yes - i do prefer minimal tunes so i can get away with bringing tune in stupidly early more so than most harddance 'DJs'

 

(DJs in quotation marks as i'm encompasing hobbiests as well as those who play out)

Edited November 13, 2003 by yppaH_rM

[LittleMissLoud]

yppaH_rM said:

(DJs in quotation marks as i'm encompasing hobbiests as well as those who play out)

 

I thought you put them in quotation marks cos you were trying to say they can't call themselves dj's!

[Mr_Happy]

hehe - i did post it without the explanation but then afterwards though it could be taken the wrong was so edited it. bloody glad i did now

[Phil B]

i like tunes that let you do nice long mixes, not into 16 beat mixes

[JoeDrawb]

Phil_B said:

i like tunes that let you do nice long mixes, not into 16 beat mixes

 

agreed

[Mr_Happy]

Phil_B said:

i like tunes that let you do nice long mixes, not into 16 beat mixes

 

genrally speeking i do to. but there are some really good tunes out there that sounds great when dropped in such a snappy way.

 

one of the nice things about alot of techno is you can do long intermixes and still only play 3 mins from a tune

[Ian Cashman]

when jeff mills plays, he gets through 60 tunes an hour..

[BenRW]

MISTERhappy said:

how do you prefer you tunes played? i tend to ram as many tunes in any given time as i can as i get board with tunes very very quickly. especially considering the style i play tends to be mostly set builder type tunes rather than anthems so i need to pack em in to keep people interested (imo)

 

whats your thoughts?

 

I used to cut my tunes up badly and make them really short but then i bought a minidisc player and started recording mixes, listened to them and realised that for what i was playing it wasnt working that often. Now i only do that when i know a tune really well and know i can bring in the other one earlier. For me it depends on the tune playing and the one i'm going to bring in. Their structure depends when to bring it in.

 

One of my m8s from school does mixes where he overlaps tunes for up to five mins at a time. He says he sometimes only has 20secs to change record and put it on. He's into more progressive tunes where i think you can do that more and build the levels up and down. Havent listened to him mix properly in years so not sure what it sounds like.

[LiquidEyes]

benrostwood said:

One of my m8s from school does mixes where he overlaps tunes for up to five mins at a time.

Self-indulgent super-smooth 4-minute overlaps are so 2001. In 90% of cases it's either the DJ saying "look how good I am at beatmatching", or just a symptom that the tunes are dull and sparse on their own (progressive house anyone...?)

 

I have a few "magic pairs" of tunes in my collection, but as I've got more and more critical of my own & other people's mixing, I've become intolerant of tunes that don't quite sound right together.

 

My only rule with mixing is to "respect" the tunes. As LML says, it can sound terrible when you mix over a section that already sounds very busy/intense. Sometimes nice long mixes are great, other times short sharp mixes are just the job. As long as it sounds musical, who cares!

[Andy Whitby]

As Alison said, there are time & places where hard-dance tracks sound best to be mixed but also its the excitment of finding tracks that work so perfect together that make djing so special, where they just slot together so nicely.