Having a mentally & physically disabled child?

[Tidy Tart]

QUOTE (miss_diddy @ Feb 22 2004, 13:57)

you have cracked me up Steph!! WTF!! At this time of life!! Christ, you have made me cross, sorry, but you are young & have a whole life ahead of you, but you need to have a word with your attitude!!!

i meant with the way my head is at the moment and my social life!

 

i would want to beable to give 110% if i was workin with children... of all abilitys!

 

goin out on a weekend and doin what i do would not allow me to do that!

 

i also have to sort my head out fully and relisese what i want/need from life!

 

didnt mean that to come across the way it did

[big_ee69]

QUOTE (Louise @ Feb 22 2004, 09:47)

is it also fair on a mental & physically ill child to be bought into the world? i beleive everyone has the right to life, but i also beleive on quality of life (so i cant really answer that myself )

Lou

 

What makes u thingk that a child with mental or physical disabilities will have worse quaility of live than a 'normal' child. The world is not a nice place. And is getting nastier. Many 'normal' children struggle. Many don't make it.

Whilst many handicapped children are blissfully unaware of any problems. And can lead happy and fufilled lives.

Having said this I completely believe that it is the woman's right to chose whether to carry on with a pregnancy, after amino tests ects. And if she chooses to terminate after bad test results, then that is what is best for her, and the child.

 

The only moral dilema, that I see is what happens if the parents or parent are unanabale to care for a child afer it is born. but I think this is an issue that effects all children not just those born with a disabillity. And luckily we live in a country where such children are cared for outside of the family, and not left to roam the streets, or sleep rough, and die young. like many in other countries.

 

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[Louise]

ok then ee

 

do you think its fair for some children to be operated on every month of there life just to stay alive, never be able to scratch there head if they have an itch? never be able to grow away from there family and have familys of there own, never be able to ask when they need the toilet of food, or never be able to have a friend to talk to......simple fact being because thay cant talk........im sorry but i dont call this a good quaility of life, how frustrating must it be?

 

and just for your infomation, i did say i was sitting on the fence with this one because thankfully iv never been in this situation.......but as selfish as it may sound, id have to put myself first when it comes to thinking about anything like this, after all, its only through my life that they can only lead there life.

 

 

BTW....i did call this post mentally AND physically disabilaties........so please dont think id refuse the right to life just because of a physical disability

 

[Lisa]

QUOTE (tidytart @ Feb 23 2004, 00:57)

QUOTE (miss_diddy @ Feb 22 2004, 13:57) you have cracked me up Steph!! WTF!!  At this time of life!!  Christ, you have made me cross, sorry, but you are young & have a whole life ahead of you, but you need to have a word with your attitude!!! i meant with the way my head is at the moment and my social life!   i would want to beable to give 110% if i was workin with children... of all abilitys!   goin out on a weekend and doin what i do would not allow me to do that!   i also have to sort my head out fully and relisese what i want/need from life!   didnt mean that to come across the way it did That's what I thought you ment after I replied the first time, hence my second reply to you hon!!   But seriously, you can have a great social life & do what you want in respects to working, it just means cutting down a wee bit & being a bit more sensible, which we are all capable of, well most!   Why not look in to it & use it as a first step, to discovering what you want & sorting yourself, we can all sit here & say *hey im not ready etc!!* but by making the first step, the rest become easier sweets!!   Could be the boost & kick up the arse you are looking for!!

[Scream]

i will say this, i would be classified under the mentally disabled because i'm dyslexic. Just like my brother and sister. If i didn't get the help i needed i would no way of got as far as i have. That's thanks to my mum for fighting so hard for me. It hasn't been easy by any long stretch of the imagination, if anything it has given me a totally different childhood that nearly all of you on here. But then we've all got different backgrounds, that's what makes all so different and lovely to be around. Would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same childhood.

 

Like i said it wasn't easy, but i know my mum and dad don't regret one day since we've been born. It's life, the world is a nasty place to be in, but there are people out there that generally want to help you and see you succeed. After my mum started to help me from doing all her own research she's now ended up going back to college, then doing her degree, then soemthing else teacher releated. She's now a senior teacher teaching kids with behavioural problems. Just goes to show how things can lead on from each other. So from helping us she has now helped loads of parents and children because of a disability that we were born with.

 

I'm happy and didn't turn out to bad, so it just goes to prove that if you really want to help someone you can face all the odds. Oh and trust me the odds of me recieving help and being recognised as dyslexic at the age i was, within the county i was is a massive achivement!

[Lisa]

Scream, my brother is dyslexic & hon, it's hard I know, my mother fought tooth & nail to keep him out of special needs school as they were addimant he was backwards, but know way, my mother spotted straight away, it was dyslexia & eventually got to see a speciallist & my brother although reads things backwards & writes backwards etc, he is one of the most intelligent peeps I know!!

 

But comparing dyslexia to downs syndrome say, is not really a comparison!!!

[Louise]

i can understand your point of veiw, but im on about terminateing a pregnancy because of severe problems (mental & physical) that i stated on my original post. (eg spina bifida with hydrocaphalies)

 

theres a huuuuuge difference, thats why i havent bought my cousin into things, shes nearly 40 but has downs.........she has a great life because she is able bodied, ok things are not how they used to be because my great aunt is now a widow and 76 years old, she cant cope anymore....but has to cope come the end of the day.

 

BTW this is where this subject came from, my great aunt had her arm and 4 fingers broke by my cousin (she was having one of her paddys) and i was talking to her not long after it happened and she said shes lucky that karen is able bodied otherwise she would be in a home by now and she cant imagine what other people with worse problems go through.

 

[Scream]

QUOTE (miss_diddy @ Feb 23 2004, 10:39)

Scream, my brother is dyslexic & hon, it's hard I know, my mother fought tooth & nail to keep him out of special needs school as they were addimant he was backwards, but know way, my mother spotted straight away, it was dyslexia & eventually got to see a speciallist & my brother although reads things backwards & writes backwards etc, he is one of the most intelligent peeps I know!! But comparing dyslexia to downs syndrome say, is not really a comparison!!!

aye i agree there not on the same scale, but it's sad to see if anyone is even slightly different the amount of abuse you can get by people.

 

Dyslexia was hard to spot, and still is in some schools. But as people (teachers mainly) become more aware of this then hopefully it gets recognised and is sorted out quicker.

 

No matter what the disability, if the right help is given it improves their life loads. Just some people make it bloody hard to get that help.

[Maria]

QUOTE (Scream @ Feb 23 2004, 10:48)

No matter what the disability, if the right help is given it improves their life loads.

100% AGREED