fuel strike

[Guest]

How can you boycot the top 2 when you don't know who's supplying the cheapest supermarket stations

[goshow]

How can you boycot the top 2 when you don't know who's supplying the cheapest supermarket stations 

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Well said Dawn. Did you know that BP supply Sainsbury's and ESSO supply Tesco. It is exactly the same thats in the supplyeres pumps but cheaper, even the super unleaded is the same.

 

The thing, in this country we won't do anything about the fuel prices, the fuel will rise, we'll strike for a bit and then Blair won't budge and we'll call it a day. In the U.S.A. the fuel went up to 50cents a litre and the public went rioting, seriously smashing everything up. The fuel soon went back down. Maybe we should try it here.

 

I found a reciept the other day from when i was an apprentice engineer (thats only 11 years ago before you start on my age!) and fuel was 59.9p per litre, for super unleaded. It's £1.11 here. It costs me £78 to fill that Cosworth up and the tank lasts 300 miles. Last year when we all went to America and hired that huge motorhome it cost us £65 to fill that up and that had a 275 litre tank.

 

Blair needs bloody shooting.

[Miss Minx]

Esso are definately Tesco as i cant claim my clubcard points on my fuel anymore damn it

[Bukey]

How can you boycot the top 2 when you don't know who's supplying the cheapest supermarket stations 

 

That's a good point, but if you don't buy direct from the top two, then they will definately notice a hit to their pockets still. The supermarkets buy at lower rates, and have got much more bargaining power with the top two than any one individual or group of individuals. The top two make less profit from petrol sold through supermarkets than they do from petrol sold via their own stations.

[fifedjdomo]

what i dont honestly understand is exactly WHO is taking the strike and WHY???

 

i know that theres a fuel strike because the prices are rediculous...but i am lost on the in's and out's

[goshow]

How can you boycot the top 2 when you don't know who's supplying the cheapest supermarket stations 

 

That's a good point, but if you don't buy direct from the top two, then they will definately notice a hit to their pockets still. The supermarkets buy at lower rates, and have got much more bargaining power with the top two than any one individual or group of individuals. The top two make less profit from petrol sold through supermarkets than they do from petrol sold via their own stations.

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The problem of fuel pricing doesn't lie with the fuel companies, it's the Governments fault. On every £10 spent on fuel £9.50 of it goes to the government. A the min Crued oil has risen to $80 per barrel so i can totally understand if the fuel companies put the fuel up slightly. Drop the tax by 50% then you'll see a huge decrease.

[fifedjdomo]

an acceptable decrease!

[Bukey]

The problem of fuel pricing doesn't lie with the fuel companies, it's the Governments fault. On every £10 spent on fuel £9.50 of it goes to the government. A the min Crued oil has risen to $80 per barrel so i can totally understand if the fuel companies put the fuel up slightly. Drop the tax by 50% then you'll see a huge decrease.

 

Agreed, but the fuel companies also take advantage of the fact that tax is so high and are reaping ridiculous amounts of profit. They know the obvious answer is then to blame the Government for tax, and the fact they themselves are somewhat to blame drops off the radar.

 

If consumers also make an impact on the top two, then they are in a better position to argue the toss over tax with the Government. Unfortunately this Government has already shown that it doesn't listen to the public directly.

[goshow]

The problem of fuel pricing doesn't lie with the fuel companies, it's the Governments fault. On every £10 spent on fuel £9.50 of it goes to the government. A the min Crued oil has risen to $80 per barrel so i can totally understand if the fuel companies put the fuel up slightly. Drop the tax by 50% then you'll see a huge decrease.

 

Agreed, but the fuel companies also take advantage of the fact that tax is so high and are reaping ridiculous amounts of profit. They know the obvious answer is then to blame the Government for tax, and the fact they themselves are somewhat to blame drops off the radar.

 

If consumers also make an impact on the top two, then they are in a better position to argue the toss over tax with the Government. Unfortunately this Government has already shown that it doesn't listen to the public directly.

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True, but why go for the biggest 2 companies. If you were in battle it is a hell of a lot easlier attacking the small army's than the very large one's. once you have overcome the small companies then they will coral and help fight against the large companies. It's a fact of battle.

[Bukey]

True, but why go for the biggest 2 companies. If you were in battle it is a hell of a lot easlier attacking the small army's than the very large one's. once you have overcome the small companies then they will coral and help fight against the large companies. It's a fact of battle.

 

That's a battle. This is commercialism and supply and demand... If the smaller operations hit difficulties, they'll just pull their operations all together. If you look at the supermarkets - it's not their main source of income in any case. It's a value added and as such secondary service. If they pull the plug, you'll just be forced to buy direct from the larger companies.

 

You hit the bigger two, then the smaller companies will see increased trade and they'll be encouraged to keep costs lower. They'll also be selling more of a product, so will be in a better bargaining position with the bigger two - who actually control the industry.

[goshow]

But most petrol stations are franchises anyway, so your not hitting the major company directly, and like i said earlier, sainsbury's is supplied with BP fuel anyway so either way your paying it to the major company. Understandably fuel is a necessity so people aregoing to buy it where they can. On the last fuel strike there were small garages here charging £2 per litre and people will pay it.

[fifedjdomo]

You hit the bigger two, then the smaller companies will see increased trade and they'll be encouraged to keep costs lower.

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thats not what we learned in economics. companies who find they gain a lot of revenue from a certain product (in this case - petrol and diesel) then the company will be inclined to increase the prices slightly and will increase to do so as long as the market is there for it until the products popularity drops and then they are forced into lowering the price to try and gain sales again.

 

 

i guess this does apply to normal products but in the case of fuel, its different because it is a neccesity and there will be a market for it at no matter the price.

 

we have to face it, that it sucks. we can find alternative fuel providers, but at the same time their prices are also nearly as high, and even then their fuel is provided by the market leaders anyway so whats the difference.

 

 

final comment: my dad says he uses shell anyway

 

lol