Ecstacy

[Phil rr]

2 million per weekend done.

 

that is all

[LiquidEyes]

Your point...?

 

That tells us nothing about long-term side-effects.

[InspiredMonster]

Im out this weekend, gonna get nutted but aint done it for ages. Used be a bit of a pill moster back in the day like most people did. Taking the advice of some peeps above gone get some of these 5-htp things, can I buy em over the counter in chemist? never heard of em before.

[snowqueen]

well the memory lose dont concern me as i have had that since i was a youngster...what was this issue about..errrrrrr.

[Lisa]

my thoughts on this is, we only live once & if popping pills is your weekend tipple then so be it, many products are sold from pharmacutical companies, that really are not safe to take & are later on retracted from the market etc, because of effects shown up later on, look at side affects on most things that are sold over the counter or on perscription, it is a risk we all take, jeez, peanuts are killers, but they are still available

[snowqueen]

It does'nt seem to matter what we intake its bad.....drugs, alcohol.......now its food....we only live once we all gonna die...so lets have fun doing it all....

[kitty]

QUOTE (InspiredMonster @ Mar 16 2004, 13:25)

Im out this weekend, gonna get nutted but aint done it for ages. Used be a bit of a pill moster back in the day like most people did. Taking the advice of some peeps above gone get some of these 5-htp things, can I buy em over the counter in chemist? never heard of em before.

u can get them from health stores.

its best to take them everyday for about 3 weeks to get them in the system,

i found the first time i used them they didnt help but after being on them for a month they work a treat.

make sure u def take them 2 nights b4 go out,just b4 go and two days after at least.

[Maria]

5HTP has never worked for me

 

Sorry, ONCE it did. That was 2 years ago.

 

It's bed for me the whole day after.

[kitty]

it didnt work for me either at first,so i then took it everyday and i feel better now,ok this wk end i feel rough but i think its due to a cold.

5 htp is also good for depression to.

i dunno,it is quite expensive tho

[Phil rr]

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Mar 16 2004, 10:19)

Your point...? That tells us nothing about long-term side-effects.

point is, thousands of people take millions of pills every weekend.

 

have done for years.

 

pills are drugs. pills feck about a bit with your chemicals. we all know they aren't good for you,. we all know they can help make a good weekend better.

 

and....... ?

 

 

like debating the good and bad points about knifes and forks.

[Guest Shenlong]

not really phil, seeing as the effects/dangers of knives and forks are obvious. the long term consequences of doing pills are not. that much would ahev been obvious if you had read any of this thread properly.

 

the length of time people ahve been doing them and in the quantities they do them nowadays is relatively speaking, nto long at all to find out any long term consequences.

[Lisa]

long term affect applies to most drugs, illegal or otherwise, look at the mini pill, for years, loads of women were subscribed it, ment to be the best contraceptive etc, but a few years ago, it was retracted, because it was causing alsorts of problems & strokes, so it can be said for most chemicals.

[Dawn]

And the main contraceptive pill in the 60's ... thalidomide

[Guest RickD]

QUOTE (Dawn @ Mar 16 2004, 19:13)

And the main contraceptive pill in the 60's ... thalidomide

Funnily enough, this is making a come-back as for use against cancers of the blood and maybe even other forms of cancer... And the only thing is, you shouldn't get pregnant while using it...

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (miss_diddy @ Mar 16 2004, 15:18)

many products are sold from pharmacutical companies, that really are not safe to take & are later on retracted from the market etc, because of effects shown up later on, look at side affects on most things that are sold over the counter or on perscription, it is a risk we all take, jeez, peanuts are killers, but they are still available

Over-the-counter drugs don't usually cause such severe effects such as memory loss, and fucking with your serotonin levels. And those are just the known effects of ecstasy. And more to the point, you only take OTC drugs if you have to - not recreationally!

 

Peanuts can be killers but not in the general case. The greater concern is, for example, that perhaps in another decade or so we will have a generation of people with completely fucked short-term-memories, or depression, due to regular intake of pills.

 

I'm not pro or against drugs - but I think it's a bit short-sighted to be completely passive about it. "It'll be alright in moderation." Nobody knows!!