Alcohol - Good or Bad?

[SarahPVC]

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i wonder how much of the stigma you talk about is how someone who doesnt like beer stereotypes drinkers.

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I went into a club recently that went through into another pub-like bit. Not only did i feel uneasy but i felt unsafe! I know some of the things i wear are a bit risque but ive never ever felt uneasy in a club where people predominently take drugs. What is it about alcohol that turns people into letchy pervs and make them think they have the right to try and grope you?!!

 

[ 31 May 2002, 17:36: Message edited by: SarahPvc ]

[Dinger]

 

 

[ 31 May 2002, 21:12: Message edited by: Dinger ]

[Dinger]

I think that as with most things in life that it's ok in moderation, it's just when people don't know or respect their own limits, drink far too much and start acting like complete tw*ts that it becomes a bad thing, lads getting pervy, girls getting loose, people puking up everywhere, people getting aggressive and violent, sh*t like that, no need, really lowers the tone of a night

[Freano]

Bang on with the Dumonde raver there. Being as another non drug taker i love a few smirnoff ices to get me going. If Alcohol is so bad why is it illegeal with regards to things like Pills, MDMA,Coke and so . Why is it the only legal drug aprt from nicotine?

A night out with a few drinks is great gets me really going in a club esp with a few red bulls and maybe vodka with that too. I have never been tempted to do drugs and one thing i dotn get is that if enjoy the music so much why do i need drugs to help me enhance it? I would feel that if i had to take drugs to enjoy the music and would have lost the natural love and enjoyment of music that we had before or maybe never had it was just the drug effcts talking?

My music passion is so strong i feel as if i would be cheating myself by taking drugs in a club.

juts food for thought i guess, take it as you will

[Magic]

Personally, I don't think that I could live without alcohol. It's very difficult to remember a day when I didn't have a drink (and that's not because of any neurophysiological effect that the alcohol has had on my brain).

 

I was raised in a family where social gatherings were always a big feature, and therefore I was brought up to enjoy a small glass of wine every now and again, especially at meal times (aaaaahhhhhh, fond memories at being drunk aged 3 at sister's christening).

 

That's not to say that my parent's were/are alcoholics or were irresponsible in allowing me drink occasionally. They, and I have always worked extremely hard and as such a drink, around friends is the perfect way to relax. I think that drinking alcohol at an earlier age than is legal, under the supervision of adults, is absolutely fine - like anything, by preventing alcohol from being seen as some 'forbidden fruit' that cannot be eaten, kids will not feel the need to rebel, and so be less likely to go on binge drinking session where they can become aggressive, lecherous, boring assholes as they get older.

 

Sarah, I appreciate that you may have had some bad experiences, and true, alcohol can cause alot of violence, misbehaving etc, but personally I have never in 28 years ever been in a fight, neither have my good friends, and we would never consider going to places where that kind of thing goes on.

 

The overiding factor that determines ones reaction to the drug is, like all drugs, ones latent personality (and I can speak with some professional knowledge, having been a neurobiologist) - be it alcohol, pills, coke, weed - if you're a naturally relaxed, chilled out and happy person, that's how you're more than likely to be after taking it; the more hyper and agressive you when sober, the more this is going to exaggerated while under the influence.

 

Sorry if this sounds like a bit of lecture, it's no supposed to.

[Rob D]

Spot on Freano, you and I agree on that. If you have to take drugs to have a good time and enjoy yourself, why bother? A few drinks before to get in the mood is much better. However there is a time and a place to get hammered, and I can't deny that I enjoy that as well!

[Flakey Dove]

Is alchol good?

Don't be so ridiculous,of course it is!

[CreamyC]

[Magic]

Again, it's really down to the kind of personality you naturally have as to how you're going to act when you take any drug.

 

Have to say though that I've also been in a lot clubs where pilled-up and not pissed-up blokes suddenly think that they are god's gift to the girls, and think that by grabbing some poor chick's hips and gyrating their groin into their ass, she will immediately drop to her knees and beg for more.....sad really.

[SarahPVC]

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ultimately at the end of the day, it is no question, each to there own and each party should respect that

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I totally agree with that Dumonde Raver - i think its a case that people should know their limits and stay within them. Ive seen too many people screw up on various things because they have pushed their bodies too far and a few of those people ended up dead!

 

[ 04 June 2002, 16:00: Message edited by: SarahPvc ]

[Freano]

All in all a pretty good deabte i think! Well done everyone!!

[James]

I conclude that both drugs & alcohol and both good AND bad depending on what mood you are in! I am definitely with Sarah re: Beer Monsters groping up our women and to be quite honest Cream in Liverpool was the biggest pile of sh*te I've visited for a long time - loads of pissed up blokes stomping on my new white trainers and spilling booze over my new shirt.

 

Personally I cant stand the attidude that comes with most pissed-up-plonkers however but I LOVE the attitude and vibe which comes with pilled-up-peeps. Having said that a lot of my best mates dont take anything or even drink that much - CreamyC, Freano, Dumonde so I guess they are the luckilest as they truly are content with their natural chemicals in their blood system.

 

James

[Tara]

I'll back you up on that James!

I just feel that when theres pilled up peeps, the gals get treated with more respect coz everyones around for the music and NOT to pull!

At ministry me and Elly went in the drinkers room for a bit of a dance and we had been in there only 2 mins before a guy started trying to grope us! We made a quick exit!!!

However I do like a drink with my buds from time to time but I always feel much better after pills

[CreamyC]

Come on people, lets have a bit of respect here!

 

Without Alcohol the poor pigs arses out there would never get laid, please bear that in mind people!!!

[The PigMan]

Totally agree with you there Creamy! Thanks for supporting us pigs, we need alcohol in people for us to get action!

 

oink oink!