an horrendous crime or rough justice??

[colin66]

QUOTE (Jessica Rabbit @ May 12 2004, 14:39)

QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2004, 14:37) wasnt rascal referring to the beater uppers rather than the suspected peedy? Yeah but it's the whole Daily Mail type 'lock em up and throw away the key' attitude to criminals which I object to. But you've already agreed with Liquideyes that they are 'Scum' and 'they should all get life imprisonment.'

[colin66]

QUOTE (Kether @ May 12 2004, 15:32)

Do you think it's possible to be a paedophile and not take advantage of kids? I do. Sure, you can't stop someone's feelings of sexual attraction towards whatever they are attracted to but you can attempt rehabillitate someone so that they don't commit crimes against those that are vulnerable.

Agreed. There is a huge difference between a 'Paedophile' who finds children sexual attractive and a 'Paedophile' who acts upon their desires and actually goes out and rapes, or even kills a child.

 

The same as there is a huge difference between a 'Hetrosexual male' who finds women sexual attractive and a Hetrosexual male' who actually goes out and rapes, or even kills a woman.

 

It is the act of rape or murder that is the true crime. A rapist or murderer doesn't have to be a Paedophile.

 

Also would you class a 40 year old man who adducts a 12 year old girl on the same level as, for example, a 17 years old boy having sex with his 15 year old girlfriend. In the eyes of the law they are both Paedophiles.

 

But no forget that, lets just round all the 'Paedophiles' in the world and kill them

[Phil rr]

QUOTE (Jessica Rabbit @ May 12 2004, 14:39)

QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2004, 14:37) QUOTE (Jessica Rabbit @ May 12 2004, 14:35) Ermm, not to try cause friction, but I sense a bit of hypocrisy - we say how awful mob mentality is, then come out with stuff like 'lock the fuckers up'. wasnt rascal referring to the beater uppers rather than the suspected peedy? Yeah but it's the whole Daily Mail type 'lock em up and throw away the key' attitude to criminals which I object to. i object to the Daily Mails attitude to everything. I don't read the daily mail. not trying to be funny - I'd object to any newspapers opinion of most things. Newspapers are NOT out to "seek justice" - they are out to sell a product - which they do by getting the public on their side by printing what people want to read.

Edited May 12, 2004 by Phil rr

[alasdairm]

QUOTE (Jessica Rabbit @ May 12 2004, 06:56)

Or maybe perhaps focus on rehabillitating them so that they don't commit the same type of crime again, rather than just focus on punishing them. This country's obsession with punishment and 'giving them what they deserve' is why the prison system doesn't work and so many people reoffend, if we focussed on the underlying causes of their behaviour and tried to help them then it would be much more successful.

what's the point of criminal justice

 

alasdair

[James]

I'm interested to know how people here would feel is a paedaphile murdered a suspected vigilante ...

[Alex]

Equally as appalled, two wrongs do not make a right.

[James]

yep, sorry Jack, this being my precise point as well

[Phil rr]

QUOTE (Phil rr @ May 11 2004, 18:04)

"two wrongs"

yep

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Kether @ May 12 2004, 15:32)

Do you think it's possible to be a paedophile and not take advantage of kids? I do. Sure, you can't stop someone's feelings of sexual attraction towards whatever they are attracted to but you can attempt rehabillitate someone so that they don't commit crimes against those that are vulnerable.

^ Fucking spot on Kether.

 

As far as I'm concerned, people can think what they like - it's not my business what goes on in somebody else's head. The issue is "choice" & "free will".

[Jessica Rabbit]

QUOTE (alasdairm @ May 12 2004, 19:00)

QUOTE (Jessica Rabbit @ May 12 2004, 06:56) Or maybe perhaps focus on rehabillitating them so that they don't commit the same type of crime again, rather than just focus on punishing them. This country's obsession with punishment and 'giving them what they deserve' is why the prison system doesn't work and so many people reoffend, if we focussed on the underlying causes of their behaviour and tried to help them then it would be much more successful. what's the point of criminal justice   alasdair I remember doing this six-point model of criminal justice for Philosphy & Ethics AS..... Ahhhh happy days, just brought some memories back