Elections

[ortski]

If World War 3 started, you would want america on our side, they are the biggest nation with the biggest army and the most firepower, to through away an ally like that would be stupid!

[colin66]

World war 3? if there was a 'world war 3' we would all be blown to pieces. And if came down to the crunch you think the US would give a fuck about a small island off the west coast of Europe?

[Sparky]

Am I the only one who's disturbed more by the state of the nation's minds than the state of the nation itself?!

 

I'll be voting Labour again. Even though I'm more pro-European than he is, I'm a huge admirer of Gordon Brown. Obviously I realise that this isn't a general election and I should be voting on local and European issues, but wider issues such as Iraq obviously have a bearing.

 

What I continually fail to understand are people who slate the Govt. on Iraq and then say that they will be voting Tory. Despite Dracula Howard's comments yesterday, the Tories have always been slavishly behind the USA and more so behind Bush - so how does it make sense to vote Conservative in these circumstances? Unless of course you want to commit even more UK troops to the "cause" and subject the country to total US command?

 

BTW I won't hold my breath on a sensible reply to that last paragraph.

Edited May 21, 2004 by Sparky

[Tunic]

 

I completely agree with Sparky. The only thing is I wish to god Blair would stand down and not only honour his agreement to let Brown take control of the government but to actually let the better, more respectable man run the country. I'd vote LibDem if they could actually deliver some political clout but unfortunately as "nice" as Kennedy is, he is no leader.

 

The only way I was even remotely interested in voting Tory in the last couple of years was when Portillo was in the running as he was attempting to present a modernist party. As it stands, vote in the Dracula at your own mercy. The banning of raves (as in the Criminal Justice Bill) is just one of the many things he has done to try and kill free spirit in this country.

[The Road Runner]

I agrre on the Blair situ, Brown is the man for the mo. But to be honest none of the candidates are any fookin good. I haven't seen a clearly good leader of the nation since, Mr. Grey Face.

Anyways, if WW3 started i'd have to go out in one fookin blaze of glory. And i know sparky and tunic would be there with me.

As far as politics goes there enough of that on these bloody web-sites...

I'd vote for the LibDem's/Green Party atleast they legalise drugs, and when the end comes we'll all be too fucked to care

Figure someone's got to say it, its just business...

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Sparky @ May 21 2004, 13:54)

Am I the only one who's disturbed more by the state of the nation's minds than the state of the nation itself?! I'll be voting Labour again. Even though I'm more pro-European than he is, I'm a huge admirer of Gordon Brown. Obviously I realise that this isn't a general election and I should be voting on local and European issues, but wider issues such as Iraq obviously have a bearing. What I continually fail to understand are people who slate the Govt. on Iraq and then say that they will be voting Tory. Despite Dracula Howard's comments yesterday, the Tories have always been slavishly behind the USA and more so behind Bush - so how does it make sense to vote Conservative in these circumstances? Unless of course you want to commit even more UK troops to the "cause" and subject the country to total US command?

^ couldn't have put it better myself.

 

THANK FUCK the Sun / Mirror / Times etc haven't completely brain-washed everybody (yet) with their tiresome "slag off whoever's in power for every little thing that goes wrong" pop politics.

[Guest Kev]

QUOTE (ortski @ May 20 2004, 21:39)

I vote labour, only so the tories dont get in. I was in school when the tories had the power, i used to love my free bottle of milk in the morning, and margaret bloody thatcher took it away!!! how bleedin selfish, taking free milk away from kids, this aparently is the cause for the slump in growth in kids a little younger than myself.

Is that your only reason for not voting for a party? Fuck.

 

And the stunt growth thing was never proved.

 

Did your parents smoke?

[ortski]

QUOTE (Kev @ May 21 2004, 16:08)

QUOTE (ortski @ May 20 2004, 21:39) I vote labour, only so the tories dont get in. I was in school when the tories had the power, i used to love my free bottle of milk in the morning, and margaret bloody thatcher took it away!!! how bleedin selfish, taking free milk away from kids, this aparently is the cause for the slump in growth in kids a little younger than myself. Is that your only reason for not voting for a party? Fuck.   And the stunt growth thing was never proved.   Did your parents smoke? No they didnt, and i wasnt affected, if youd read what i wrote i said kids a little younger than myself.   and again, it doesnt matter who you vote in, other people make the decisions, the last say on what our country does is not up to tony blair

[russelldust]

I wasn't in the country for the last election and voted conservative at the two previous... if I had been in the country I really might have voted labour.

 

At the moment I have no idea who to vote for though I do like very little of what the current government has been doing (though I think the desire to rid the world of an evil tyrant is admirable what about Mugabe and others?).

 

In particular the whole concept of getting off your arse to do things that Thatcher brought about (and believe me this country was a toilet full of layabouts due to the huge power of unions and crippling tax regimes before she came to power) is starting to disappear...

 

If you've tried to do anything such as set up a business, get a government grant, appeal a parking ticket or a millions other things (I've deliberately used a mix bag of examples) you'd know that there is more red tape in this country than you'd find in Chairman Mao's China.

 

I don't like it and ultimately crimping entrepreneurship is bad for everyone.

 

That said the money given to hospitals and schools is great (though it doesn't seem to be resulting in better pay and conditions or even more nurses and doctors- just more people with clipboards).

 

Anyway I'm always a big pessimist and I see a big fuck off 1929 style depression washing across the world over the next few years... not least because terrorism is going to become a fact of life for everyone is the western world.