Whats the worst remix/rework you have ever heard?

[LTM]

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 28 2004, 18:16)

QUOTE (LTM @ May 28 2004, 17:46) QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 27 2004, 23:42) QUOTE (LTM @ May 27 2004, 22:37) Faithless - We Come One (Rob Tissera Remix) its impossible to do a good hardhouse remix of any faithless tune. hardhouse just doesnt grasp the subtelties of the music and they always leave out rolos vocals (which 99% of the time is what makes the faithless tune such an anthem) Rolo is the producer. Maxi Jazz is the vocalist. my point still stands And your very right. I don't think it's a case of vocals but I see what you mean. Maxi Jazz is a lyrical genious. I just reckon some tunes are not meant to be done in a Hard way like that. This is the same for Karim's rapes of Age Of Love and Technikals rape Carte Blanche.

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QUOTE (LTM @ May 29 2004, 16:03)

Technikals rape Carte Blanche.

that surely did the original justice mate...but each to their own eh

 

 

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QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 27 2004, 23:42)

its impossible to do a good hardhouse remix of any faithless tune. hardhouse just doesnt grasp the subtelties of the music

I'm disappointed in you mate...Didn't think u'd be one to generalise like that. There is a lot of good Hard House out there that is musically extremely well produced, and where a lot of thought is put into subtle sounds and effects.

 

Being both a Hard house and Trance producer there's an equal amount of thought that has to be put into both.

[LTM]

I wrote a big paragraph why Faithless and Veracocha should not be touched in that UK Hard Trance way but all that needs to be said is... Some tunes are just not meant for Hard House/Hard Trance. Simple.

Edited May 29, 2004 by LTM

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QUOTE (ReBirth @ May 29 2004, 16:44)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 27 2004, 23:42) its impossible to do a good hardhouse remix of any faithless tune. hardhouse just doesnt grasp the subtelties of the music I'm disappointed in you mate...Didn't think u'd be one to generalise like that. There is a lot of good Hard House out there that is musically extremely well produced, and where a lot of thought is put into subtle sounds and effects.   Being both a Hard house and Trance producer there's an equal amount of thought that has to be put into both. i dont doubt that, but the fast the beat rate, the less time there is for people to notice the subtelties.   i have got a hardhousy version of insomnia i'm cooking up. but i'm not going to even think about working on it until i have the skill to do it justice (only got the ideas in me head at the mo)

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QUOTE (LTM @ May 29 2004, 16:03)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 28 2004, 18:16) QUOTE (LTM @ May 28 2004, 17:46) QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ May 27 2004, 23:42) QUOTE (LTM @ May 27 2004, 22:37) Faithless - We Come One (Rob Tissera Remix) its impossible to do a good hardhouse remix of any faithless tune. hardhouse just doesnt grasp the subtelties of the music and they always leave out rolos vocals (which 99% of the time is what makes the faithless tune such an anthem) Rolo is the producer. Maxi Jazz is the vocalist. my point still stands And your very right. I don't think it's a case of vocals but I see what you mean. Maxi Jazz is a lyrical genious. I just reckon some tunes are not meant to be done in a Hard way like that. This is the same for Karim's rapes of Age Of Love and Technikals rape Carte Blanche. TDV raped age of love.

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QUOTE (LTM @ May 29 2004, 17:07)

I wrote a big paragraph why Faithless and Veracocha should not be touched in that UK Hard Trance way but all that needs to be said is... Some tunes are just not meant for Hard House/Hard Trance. Simple.

agreed

[ReBirth]

Yes, but that all comes down to personal sentiment..if most people felt the same, it wouldn't have gotten the sales that it did. Ferry Corsten knows about the remix, and if he thought the same, he wouldn't have allowed it..I fell that the trancey remixes that was put out in the re-press of it last year wasn't even close to Alf's remix, and didn't do it justice at all..at least Alf added some of his own elements, and actually made the track a lot more complex with added backlines and a subriff...and he created a wider audience for the track...can't see what's wrong about that...

Edited May 29, 2004 by ReBirth

[LiamStyles]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

Just a shame so many of you on here are blind

[LTM]

QUOTE (ReBirth @ May 29 2004, 20:47)

Yes, but that all comes down to personal sentiment..if most people felt the same, it wouldn't have gotten the sales that it did. Ferry Corsten knows about the remix, and if he thought the same, he wouldn't have allowed it..I fell that the trancey remixes that was put out in the re-press of it last year wasn't even close to Alf's remix, and didn't do it justice at all..at least Alf added some of his own elements, and actually made the track a lot more complex with added backlines and a subriff...and he created a wider audience for the track...can't see what's wrong about that...

It's not a Hard Trance track. And this remix never was officially released. It's an unofficial mix and if they where to persist on trying to get a full on release I'm pretty sure Vincent De Moor and Corsten would object. It's not a Hard Trance tune, and Technikal really ain't done that much to it really let's be honest here. A basic Hard Trance rerub if I ever heard one. All the new mixes have been shit even the official ones. The Original and Origin Remix are the ones. Let's face facts here Technikal keep on doing these guff remixes can't they stick with producing originals I'm sure if the producers of the tunes getting bum fucked wanted Hard Trance mixes they'd ask for them.

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QUOTE (LTM @ May 29 2004, 22:52)

Let's face facts here Technikal keep on doing these guff remixes can't they stick with producing originals I'm sure if the producers of the tunes getting bum fucked wanted Hard Trance mixes they'd ask for them.

Well, it was released on Positiva...they don't cater for hard trance audiences. A lot of these remixes are done because Hard Dance DJ's ask for ir. They like the original, but it obviously can't fit into a hard set. So putting a bit of grit to it, but still mainting the original elements is what they'll want.

 

Ferry knows about the remix and said go for it, as long as he gets a copy as well. When I spoke to him at the Arches last year he said that he liked what was done with it. :-)

 

But as I said mate..each to their own

 

[BenRW]

I personally cannot fault the technikal remix of carte blanche.

 

Can LTM point out exactly what is wrong with it apart from that he doesn't like the fact that the hard dance community has got hold of a trance track.

 

I Have heard that the lee haslam and guyver remix of carte blanche is rather tasty as well

altho have yet to hear it