the people who most enjoy smoking

[Louise]

smokers choose to smoke....... non smokers have no choice in the matter

[LiquidEyes]

Agreed with Louise & Alex.

 

(forgot to mention the minging black stuff in your snot after a night out... just like the stuff you get if you spend a couple of hours on the underground)

[Lisa]

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jun 11 2004, 11:48)

Agreed with Louise & Alex. (forgot to mention the minging black stuff in your snot after a night out... just like the stuff you get if you spend a couple of hours on the underground)

yeh thats grim... shall we ban tubes then?? No as I say, I do agree with you guys, it's not fair to non smokers, to be subjected to it, jeez im a heavy smoker & at times, i can smell it & think ewwwww!!!

 

But as a smoker, I do need somewhere to go for a puff too, a booth like Alex, was it, suggested

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Lisa @ Jun 11 2004, 11:56)

But as a smoker, I do need somewhere to go for a puff too

There are plenty of gay saunas in London.

[Lisa]

puff not poof!! anyway, how do you know about these gay sauna's Andy

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Lisa @ Jun 11 2004, 12:02)

anyway, how do you know about these gay sauna's Andy

That'll be, shall we say, the more "sluttish" of my gay mates then!

[Dawn]

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jun 11 2004, 11:48)

(forgot to mention the minging black stuff in your snot after a night out... just like the stuff you get if you spend a couple of hours on the underground)

Ok sticking my neck out here as it's like replying to Alasdair

 

Is there not a flaw in your theory of black stuff up your nose (i'm presuming you mentioned it because of smokers) there is no smoking allowed on the underground so where does the black stuff come from

[LiquidEyes]

I never said the dust in the underground came from smokers. I just mentioned, in passing, that both a night out in a smoky club, and a couple of hours on the underground, have a similar effect on my snot!

 

As for where the dust comes from in the underground ... I'm not sure ... but the air is rich with it. If you look into the train tunnels, you can actually see it floating in the air (the tunnels look grey rather than black from all the shit in the air).

[Louise]

i have to have a good old furrage up there after every shift (my nose not the tube)

[Guest]

i always assumed it was from victorian days when they had steam trains down there

 

i guess its just where theres no windows open, so the place just gets full of it. (i hope that made sence)

[Alex]

QUOTE (Dawn @ Jun 11 2004, 12:25)

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jun 11 2004, 11:48) (forgot to mention the minging black stuff in your snot after a night out... just like the stuff you get if you spend a couple of hours on the underground) Ok sticking my neck out here as it's like replying to Alasdair   Is there not a flaw in your theory of black stuff up your nose (i'm presuming you mentioned it because of smokers) there is no smoking allowed on the underground so where does the black stuff come from I live in the countryside and still suffer from the black stuff.

[russelldust]

QUOTE (Louise @ Jun 11 2004, 11:23)

con........why should we have more air conditioning in pubs? it causes more allergies such as hayfever & dust allergies & increases the spreading of airborn illness such as coughs, colds & virus's.....they would be the first to complain if there having problems breathing & cant have a good ole chuff on the bensons

this is a common misconception and completely and utterly wrong- an air conditioned environment is actually much better than a non air-conditioned one for the simple reason that it is fresh air that is circulated...

 

... people seem to assume that air conditioning systems merely recycyle the air that is already in the building, but in fact they are constantly drawing in new air and throwing out old air (hence the big fans you see on the top of many buildings).

 

In addition, many modern air conditioning units have in-built pollen filters and ant-allergy filters to improve the working (or other) environment.

 

Russ

[russelldust]

QUOTE (Louise @ Jun 11 2004, 11:34)

QUOTE but do you not think it is a wee bit uunfair to expect smokers, to not be able to go anywhere for a ciggie   do you think its not a little bit unfair that i cant go anywhere to get a bit of clear air? especially when i work 20 hours a week where around 100 ciggies are smoked per hour easily?   there is laws about car exhausts & the amount of fumes there alowed to emit & the health risks are a damn sight lower than cigeratte smoke, thankfully i dont put my face near a car exhaust.......i doubt it would do me any favours but you do choose to work in that environment- maybe as you don't get paid danger money you should work elsewhere.   This is not meant to sound patronising- just a recognition that nobody HAS to work somewhere if they are not happy with the working environment- with an unemployment rate of below 5% pretty much everyone in the country could find an alternative job if they so desired.

[Louise]

so because some ignorant people blow smoke in my face while standing 2 foot away from me, i should get a new job? a job iv been doing for 13 years?????

 

maybe some people should have more consideration for others?

 

i was protected to some exstent for about 8 years as the pub that i worked at & the pub that i ran had a no smoking policy at the bar until a new brewery took over and abolished the rules that i & other landlords had set.

 

they thought that putting in an air purifier (a lot of public houses have these instesad of conditioning due to cost ) would combat the problem......needless to say it didnt and the smell that it gives out when switched on the next day is hurrendous

 

i smell like a chain smoking alcoholic by the time i finish work

[russelldust]

QUOTE (Louise @ Jun 12 2004, 09:45)

so because some ignorant people blow smoke in my face while standing 2 foot away from me, i should get a new job? a job iv been doing for 13 years????? maybe some people should have more consideration for others? i was protected to some exstent for about 8 years as the pub that i worked at & the pub that i ran had a no smoking policy at the bar until a new brewery took over and abolished the rules that i & other landlords had set. they thought that putting in an air purifier (a lot of public houses have these instesad of conditioning due to cost ) would combat the problem......needless to say it didnt and the smell that it gives out when switched on the next day is hurrendous i smell like a chain smoking alcoholic by the time i finish work

that is not what I was implying- but the health risks from passive smoking are basically the same whether you are working in a smoky atmosphere or actually having smoke blown into your face.

 

I am not saying it is right, merely saying that you knew full well you would be subject to passive smoking when you took the job so if you don't like it you should look elsewhere.

 

But I agree that ignorant people blowing smoke into your face is an unpleasant and wankerish thing to do.