Cheeky Trax!!

[Mr_Happy]

i do think open mindedness is the key to good djing and production. i meen when the 1st producers creative the 1st ever 4x4 beat tune - they were open minded enuf to try a dull beat patten yet who would have thought of the number of spin off genres and styles it would create

[Ian Cashman]

liquideyes said:

Mr_Happy said:

music can never be mastered but only refined over years of experiance.

I think this is the crux of the matter. The more your tastes evolve, and the greater the range of music you listen to, the more you start to see right through derivative crap, and the more you yearn for more original, challenging music.

 

There are loads of records that I enthused about several years ago, but now they seem completely one-dimensional and boring. Who can honestly say that they have never "grown out of" a certain sort of music? Of course it doesn't make that style of music bad, after all you liked it once! But it truly takes time and active exploration of music (i.e. not just going to the same clubs all the time, and not just buying records from exactly the same labels all the time) to gain an appreciation for many styles of music.

 

when i first got into dance music Sven Vath was my top man.. at the time he was playing the early EYE-Q trance stuff (original cafe del mar/brainchild/cygnus x). i used to go to the orbit which was THE FIRST uk trance mecca... In 92/93!!!!

 

it inspired me to take up djing.. i played loads of local free partys playing my top trance tracks, blowing away other dj's who were playing loads of hand bag style house at the time.. no one had heard of these wikid (mainly german) tunes i was spinning..

 

the club the orbit started taking on a new techno direction when all the psy trance stuff started taking over.. i didnt like the direction trance was heading in and went with the new (to me)techno thing with wikid dj's such as jeff mills ritchie hawtin and joey beltram taking up the top slots in my opinion.. non club tracks by aphex twin and warp records stuff i was also heavily into..

 

i loved it so much i moved from peterborough to leeds to be closer to this wicked place!!

 

i also started producing tracks in this time of technodom... the first demo i ever di i handed to US DJ damon wild in the orbit and he signed 3 of my tracks to an offshoot of his synewave new york (geometric)... looking back on these tracks they are utter [censored], but im still proud of my first release cos it gave me the confidence that i had some sort of talent in my tune making! hearing the aforementioned joey beltram playing one of my tracks in the orbit... well... words can never say...

 

my new signing gained me the respect of other leeds techno producers and soon i got to work with Mark Bell(LFO/Bjork), Jon and Mike H (Cold Dust) and a nother Leeds based outfit The Vonn Trapps who kindly put more of my stuff out on their label....

 

I LOVED TECHNO!!!!!

 

learning more and more on the production and synth sides of things i started to bore of making the kind of regis/blueprint/hawtin type stuff that i was churning out by the bucketload the scene im my opinion was becoming a bit stale with too many mills/surgeon clones to mention and i was getting tired of the cliquey attitude everyone i was around was having with this 'special' music we were all into..

 

i was getting more into my Plaid/Black dog style stuff.. and going out clubbing less cos these long nights of 'nails in a washing machine' tunes and techno bores were starting to grate... i wasnt enjoying djing any more... i was never getting that special crowd reaction of people genuinely loving it that used to make it all worth it anymore..

i was never a 3 decks and 909 wizard, but if you need that to make the records more interesting.. theres something wrong somewhere....

 

 

i sold my decks bought a few bit of music kit and moved back to peterborough (a [censored] stale musical enviroment if ever there was one!!!)

 

i got real depressed cos of leaving it all behind but there was nothing more i could give of myself to it.. it just didnt do it for me anymore....

 

i fell into a real [censored] time of things... (some of you may know of what im [not] speaking about here)

 

then i started hearing some stuff ... some new remixes of some of the trance tunes that i used to know (cafe del mar anyone?)

i thought.. fook this is as good as it ever was... theyve just hardened the drums up!!!

it was the 98 99 trance explosion... and i wanted back in...

i wanted to go clubbing again and this up for it (call it cheesy, i dont give a flying [censored]) music from my past pulled me right out of the early grave i had begun to dig for myself...

 

Music really did save my life...

 

i was out.. having fun.. producing with heart.. meeting kool new peeps who wernt stuck up there own arse.. enjoying life (even got a couple of tunes out on london prog label Automatic with a m8).. without drugs or attitude.. just on the music (started doing E's again since then, but [censored] it...hehe) started dj'ing again... met u lot and in 2 weeks im out in beefa!

 

 

the point this has all been about is that ive been heavily into all sorts of tunes for 10 years... ive seen genres come and go stale.. these things always come round in circles.. but true musicality always shines through... tastes change, but something that moves you and makes you feel wicked can never be slated because somebody thinks that what they listen to is more intelligent...

 

i have a laugh and make comments on here about hard house being [censored] i know... but im only light hearted jesting... to get a reaction...lol... and it does..

i could give all the reasons in the world why i think its not as good as my lovely trance, but im not gonna start turning into that big headed jumped up cliquey music bore that i used to be...

 

after all.. this is club music.. it lives an breaths in clubs... and in my opinion... any record that makes you get on the dancefloor and feel like 'it doesnt get any fooking better than this' must be better than a tune that makes you stand in the corner scratching yer chin going 'oh... the complexity!... the intellect!!'...

 

if you want to be clever put on a penderecki cd (look him up...or ill send you a copy)

 

ive prolly contradicted loads of my other music rant posts with this but...

 

'this is my truth... whats yours...?'

 

Ian Cashman (ex-clever bastard)

 

 

Ive made a new thread with this post so if ya wanna comment...please do it there, cos we are well off topic....

 

[Chris Hutchinson]

rickd said:

 

Oh and Chris, not a dig at you, but you mean you were listening to dance(generalisation, but there you go) music and knowing what it was since you were 6(Or younger!!)???

 

pretty much.....it all stemmed from drum n bass cos one of my best friends at school was the sister of DJ SS...

 

If music is being played around you, regardless of age, you will learn about it..... I liked it and after visiting the (very) late 'Sneaker Records' in Leicester in about '95, I picked up a cd copy of Lab 4 'alien ep' which is kinda where there hardhouse/acid/trance aspects all came from

[oddball]

whatever has been said cheeky trax is cheese - thats my opinion i think its utter shite.

 

some people might like it... no shame in that