harddance track with techno elements

[Jimmy]

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 19 2004, 18:33)

i've pretty much came to the same conclusion. i didnt want it to be very percusive as i wanted to avoid the sterio type that techy hardhouse has to be percursive. but it deffinatly needs more going on in the higher frequencies

theres no where near enough anything to be honest.... but ur still learnin

[Phil B]

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 19 2004, 18:33)

i didnt want it to be very percusive as i wanted to avoid the sterio type that techy hardhouse has to be percursive.

just try to make something you like instead of worrying about what it will be classed as. sometimes i think you get too bogged down in the classification of music. i personally feel that a tune you make should be a creation of a sound you like, however it gets classified after that is irrelevant.

 

could be talking shit though

[Guest]

QUOTE (Phil B @ Jun 20 2004, 14:37)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 19 2004, 18:33) i didnt want it to be very percusive as i wanted to avoid the sterio type that techy hardhouse has to be percursive. just try to make something you like instead of worrying about what it will be classed as. sometimes i think you get too bogged down in the classification of music. i personally feel that a tune you make should be a creation of a sound you like, however it gets classified after that is irrelevant.   could be talking shit though who said i was trying to classify it. all i said was i wanted to make a techy harddance tune that wasnt percusive.   that leaves my with a pretty wide scope for creation i would say

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Mr_Moo @ Jun 20 2004, 05:05)

Who makes the kick drums then if "no fukker does" ?

I rather think that there are enough kick drums 'out there' that nobody need make a new one from scratch (as in, literally generating one with a synth). Unless you really want to make something different from the norm.

 

As for sample CDs: it takes a lot of processing to make an acoustic bass drum recording into something that sounds remotely like a 'house' kick drum. Likewise it takes a lot of effort to make a synthesised kick drum have any degree of 'oomph'.

 

Personally I 'make' my kicks drums by layering together several others (off records and/or sample CDs) and filtering them appropriately. Usually I go for a mixture of natural and more synthetic kicks. Then I experiment with EQing and compression until it sits nicely in the mix.

[Phil B]

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 20 2004, 14:55)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 19 2004, 18:33) who said i was trying to classify it. all i said was i wanted to make a techy harddance tune that wasnt percusive. that leaves my with a pretty wide scope for creation i would say   QUOTE (Phil B @ Jun 20 2004, 14:37) could be talking shit though

[Guest]

QUOTE (Phil B @ Jun 20 2004, 15:04)

QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 20 2004, 14:55) QUOTE (Mr_Happy @ Jun 19 2004, 18:33) who said i was trying to classify it. all i said was i wanted to make a techy harddance tune that wasnt percusive. that leaves my with a pretty wide scope for creation i would say   QUOTE (Phil B @ Jun 20 2004, 14:37) could be talking shit though  what you said wasnt shit though. it was a guninely constructive comment and i was greatful for your advice

[Phil B]

i'm new to all this production malarky, but i feel that you should try to make a track/sound that you are happy with, hopefully it'll fit into some sort of style though, even if it doesn't you'll have learnt things and got a track that you like - i could be going about it all wrong though

 

i've got quite a few bits of things done that are nothing like what i intended to do when i turned the pc on. in the quest to make a certain sound i find things that i like the sound of more through trial and error. i'd love to be able to think of a sound and make it but that's a long way off yet

[Guest]

to be honnest - i ment to make something that was a little more hardhousy. witht he 'stomp' kinda bassline, but ended up creating a rolling bassline

 

[Phil B]

i've found it's so easy to get sidetracked from what you set out to do because you find something you like the sound of and end up playing with that for ages. once you've done it though it's there for the future. i have a feeling i'm going to end up with lots of little bits of things and never get anything finished

[Guest]

i think thats the problem all producers face

 

i cant think of one person i know that doesnt have atleast 5 unfinished tracks to every completed tune