Solar Stone - Karim remix - WTF!?!?!?

[Chris Hutchinson]

liquideyes said:

A good counter-example: I love the BK & Nick Sentience remix of Mauro Picotto's "Iguana" (the original version of which is Euro-trance at its tossest!) Now why can't all remixes be this creative?

 

Yeah - the remix is [censored] amazing!!!!!

 

For creative remixes.... Lab4 remix of 'See No Evil', Jon The Dentist remix of 'Stuck On A Space Trip' and the Zen Terrorists "supreme Being" remix of 'Real Good' are all absolutly incredible examples of how hard-dance (what a wank term that is!) can actually be respectably created!!

[LiquidEyes]

people who like hard house may not think int an "unimaginative remix" i think a lot of it is down to if u like the genre or not as to if u like the remix!!

I think anyone can see a remix is a load of bollocks if all they've done is speed it up by 10bpm and change the bassline a bit.

 

That's not a remix, it's a piss-take cash-in!

 

This is nothing to do with whether I prefer hard house or trance or whatever. There's no reason why you can't write a good hard house remix of a trance tune. But what we're saying is, at the moment there seems to be a disproportionate number of crappy unimaginative hard house rip-offs of trance tunes. A spate of talentless producers who think that speeding something up makes it more "banging".

[Guyster]

Yep - exactly what I was on about.

 

I'm not saying that HH is worse or better than trance/techno/house/prog etc. All I'm saying is that, at a time when HH is getting a rep for trawling out a lot of bootlegs and remixes of 'classics' (be it house or trance) not all of which are good, it'd be better to see a fresh injection of music rather than re-hashes.

 

The problem is, just as many great new records are coming out as well, but these remakes are getting a disproportionate amount of (bad) press. It can only be bad for the scene, so in a sense they're making a rod for their own back.

 

And jonm, I know a lot of house uses samples from old disco/funk/soul tracks, but unlike the trance/house records used in the hard dance bootlegs at the moment, people don't recognise most of them. Only people who are familiar with stuff from 15 or 20 years ago will see it in house, but the remakes of tunes that were only out a few years ago are more "obvious" as everyone knows what they are. Therefore they get a lot more attention, therefore imho are bad for the scene (even, in some cases, when they are very good).

 

In a similar post on a another board, I jokingly mentioned 5 of my favourite trance/house tracks, wondering when they would be remixed for the HH scene. I was slightly depressed to learn that ALL of them had already been done, some more than once.

 

Sad.

[Claire DC]

liquideyes said:

people who like hard house may not think int an "unimaginative remix" i think a lot of it is down to if u like the genre or not as to if u like the remix!!

I think anyone can see a remix is a load of bollocks if all they've done is speed it up by 10bpm and change the bassline a bit.

 

That's not a remix, it's a piss-take cash-in!

 

This is nothing to do with whether I prefer hard house or trance or whatever. There's no reason why you can't write a good hard house remix of a trance tune. But what we're saying is, at the moment there seems to be a disproportionate number of crappy unimaginative hard house rip-offs of trance tunes. A spate of talentless producers who think that speeding something up makes it more "banging".

 

I see, sorry i missed ur point last night, tho i was tired but yes i agree there that there are some producers just wantin to make a fast £ out of "remixing" other tunes, but at the end of the day if no1 was to buy them then they wouldnt do it as they would get nothing from it, obviously some people out there do like them!! Again comes down to opinion, but now i see ur point

[SarahPVC]

F****in class thats all i can say - i love these old remixes!

Another top one Karim has done is Snap 'The Power'

considering everyone complains about the remix it certainly has people jumping around on the packed dancefloors!

[LiquidEyes]

The sound of a pneumatic drill would have some people jumping around as long as there was a 150bpm beat behind it...

[LittleMissLoud]

liquideyes said:

The sound of a pneumatic drill would have some people jumping around as long as there was a 150bpm beat behind it...

 

Andy, you crack me up!!! It's true though!

 

Don't let Kevin see this post whatever you do, he'll have a field day!!!!

[Tony P]

I agree with you Guy, but still nice to hear some melodies of classic tunes in a hard dance environment. But most of these bootlegs are dreadful.

 

any idea where i could get hold of Heaven Scent (the original of course)

[Simon_C1562626685]

right, i've not heard this remix (or much if karims tunes to be honest). But was just wandering if this has actually been relased officially and is it being sold. Or has karim just made this for using himself?

[jon_m]

Tony.P said:

I agree with you Guy, but still nice to hear some melodies of classic tunes in a hard dance environment. But most of these bootlegs are dreadful.

 

any idea where i could get hold of Heaven Scent (the original of course)

iv got it! tune iv got two different versions in fact!

[Tony P]

wanna sell it Jon

 

you know you wanna

[Guest]

Tony, I have the original twice. So if Jon aint willing to sell his you can have it off me if you want.

[Lisa]

ooh please liam!!!

[Guest]

Like i said, it aint no drama. Just get Tony to let me know.

[Tony P]

Liam you are god. I gotta get back to work, will contact you when i get home.

cheers Bud