Fickle Minded (usually townie) TWATS

[alasdairm]

Jay said:

quick jack run before more people jump on the righteous bandwagon.

 

right. let's not forget that there are all kinds of bandwagons. there's a bigoted, hypocritical bandwagon too.

 

accusing somebody of jumping on a bandwagon instead of addressing the issues is surely the first refuge of somebody who's unsure of their position or, worse, knows their view has little substance?

 

alasdair

[alasdairm]

Jay said:

so what would that make his opinion more valid??

 

online, as in life, all of our opinions are equally valid. no more. no less.

 

alasdair

[alasdairm]

CreamyC said:

If someone was to take the piss out of me - which they do - then thats fair enough, they have every right to, just like I do.

 

right? who confers the right to belittle others? just because you have the right to do something, does that automatically mean you have to do it?

 

it's a stretch but there's a parallel with the US 2nd amendment and the NRA here...

 

i guess i'm just disappointed. one of the reasons i love the EDM community is that it tends to be much more accepting and tolerant. maybe i'm an idealist but, lately, here there seems to be a disproportionate amount of time given over to discussing who sucks/who's rude (ironic?)/who's crap/etc.

 

i guess it's just easier for a lot of people?

 

 

CreamyC said:No, but if we want to take the piss we will. Quite simple. If people dont like it, then ignore it but dont expect people to sit there silent just because you might offend 'some poor person'.

 

Get real [censored] for [censored] sake.

 

bottom line, you are right. perhaps this is me being extremely melodramatic but so many problems on the planet are caused by divisions - hating somebody simply because they have a different view than us.

 

is it such a crime to imagine that things could be better?

 

alasdair

[Tidy Tart]

creamy please shut up!!

 

 

just my forts on the matter!!

[CreamyC]

tidy_tart said:

creamy please shut up!!

 

 

just my forts on the matter!!

 

Correction. "Faults".

[Dawn]

Fickle Minded (usually townie) TWATS

 

Definition of FICKLE

 

Indecisive

Inconsistent

Changable

Capricious

Vacillating

Unpredictable

Eratic

Picky

Choosy

Nit-Picky

Fussy

 

 

 

 

[Wonky]

just asking a simple question........he has a lot to say on the subject, but iv never actually known him to go clubbing!!!!!!

 

 

alasdairm said:

Jay said:

so what would that make his opinion more valid??

 

online, as in life, all of our opinions are equally valid. no more. no less.

 

alasdair

 

this is what i am saying alasdair, because Capn Jack doesnt go clubbing according to lu lu does this make his opinion on cybers less valid??

 

no

[Blink]

CreamyC said:

No, but if we want to take the piss we will. Quite simple. If people dont like it, then ignore it but dont expect people to sit there silent just because you might offend 'some poor person'.

 

But where do you draw the line? Taking the piss out of someone (and I don't mean the friendly banter between friends, I mean when you do it to people you don't know, in the street, in a club etc) is psychological abuse, so why stop there, if it is OK to psychologically abuse someone, then it is surely OK to physically abuse someone, so you are saying it is OK to beat people up you don't like too.

 

And before anyone says that "taking the piss" isn't psychological abuse, and that psychological abuse isn't the same as physical, please support your arguements.

 

Ask anyone who was seriously picked on/had the piss taken out of them at school if they are still carrying the emotional scars years later.

[Wonky]

alasdairm said:

Jay said:

quick jack run before more people jump on the righteous bandwagon.

 

right. let's not forget that there are all kinds of bandwagons. there's a bigoted, hypocritical bandwagon too.

 

accusing somebody of jumping on a bandwagon instead of addressing the issues is surely the first refuge of somebody who's unsure of their position or, worse, knows their view has little substance?

 

alasdair

 

alasdair i am quite confident my views has substance, just as we are all aware your are extremely confident that your views also have substance.

 

the issue up for discussion on this occasion is not mine to address. i simply made an observation

[alasdairm]

Jay said:

i simply made an observation

 

as did i.

 

perhaps it's not true on this occasion but when one argument is running out of steam, a common tactic is to use the strawman approach and just accuse the other of jumping on a bandwagon.

 

i'm never really sure what that achieves, beyond being simple transparent baiting?

 

regards

 

alasdair

[Wonky]

Blink said:

CreamyC said:

No, but if we want to take the piss we will. Quite simple. If people dont like it, then ignore it but dont expect people to sit there silent just because you might offend 'some poor person'.

 

But where do you draw the line? Taking the piss out of someone (and I don't mean the friendly banter between friends, I mean when you do it to people you don't know, in the street, in a club etc) is psychological abuse, so why stop there, if it is OK to psychologically abuse someone, then it is surely OK to physically abuse someone, so you are saying it is OK to beat people up you don't like too.

 

And before anyone says that "taking the piss" isn't psychological abuse, and that psychological abuse isn't the same as physical, please support your arguements.

 

Ask anyone who was seriously picked on/had the piss taken out of them at school if they are still carrying the emotional scars years later.

 

Blink we are not here to pussy foot around people who have open wounds about their past. Before you say anything i had the absolute shite kicked out of me at school all the time and it was horrible. i dont take away from the fact that verbal or physical abuse in a serious form is unacceptable.

were covering old ground here but people have their opinions, jack wasnt singling any particular person out, he was expressing a view aboutsomthing. not everyone will like everything, nor should they have to. but they shouldnt have to keep their opinions to themselves just because some people are too sensitive.

[alasdairm]

tidyturd said:

Fickle Minded (usually townie) TWATS

 

Definition of FICKLE

 

Indecisive

Inconsistent

Changable

Capricious

Vacillating

Unpredictable

Eratic

Picky

Choosy

Nit-Picky

Fussy

 

right - the townie twats described in this thread seem, if anything, to the be the opposite. obnoxious, but hardly fickle...

 

alasdair

[alasdairm]

Jay said:

no

i totally agree.

 

alasdair

[Wonky]

alasdairm said:

Jay said:

i simply made an observation

 

as did i.

 

perhaps it's not true on this occasion but when one argument is running out of steam, a common tactic is to use the strawman approach and just accuse the other of jumping on a bandwagon.

 

i'm never really sure what that achieves, beyond being simple transparent baiting?

 

regards

 

alasdair

 

i stand by my comment, on this site people are too fast to condemn people once a couple of people have expressed the same view as theirs. people become an easy target because they have other people on their side all of a sudden and its alot easier to speak up with people behind you.

 

personally i find that a bit sad because if u have a strong ebnough view to make you should be able to make a comment and stand by it without the support of numbers

[alasdairm]

^ i'm not sure if that's aimed at me or others so i don't really feel comfortable commenting.

 

alasdair