What do you think of the techier Hard House?

[Phil rr]

LiamStyles said:

Phil_raa said:

i love techno / techno'y sounds

 

so, good

 

You better be on the floor, dancing during my set at smile then. (with a pink guinness in your hand)

 

 

 

and Phil Reynolds is fookin great . and has a first class name.

[Claire DC]

Mr_Happy said:

well to me techno isnt samey, but to the hardhouse heads it is. the problem with techy hardhouse is the hardhouse heads r jumping on the bandwaggon without ne prior experence or appretiation 4 the genre and cant work it out

 

 

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it?? You're not born with musical experience you know, everyone has to start somewhere.... like when i went to my first hard house club i didnt have any knowledge of the genre or appreciation of it tbh, i enjoyed myself but i couldnt have told you what the name of a tune was or who it was by... the only way you find out if by keep listening to it and goin to the clubs and u pick it up... 4 years down the line and things are totally different!! I love the whole hard house/hard dance scene and i do appreciate it and now i do have experience of it and the clubs but if i hadnt "jumped on the bandwagon" (because lets face it... if u start goin regularly to any genre night, thats what you are doing) then i wouldnt and couldnt have the "experience/appreciation" for it because i wouldnt have been able to get it!! Does that make sense?

 

[Mr_Happy]

Claire DC said:

Mr_Happy said:

well to me techno isnt samey, but to the hardhouse heads it is. the problem with techy hardhouse is the hardhouse heads r jumping on the bandwaggon without ne prior experence or appretiation 4 the genre and cant work it out

 

 

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it??

 

erm - not even close. i said if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of a genre then it can sound samey. just like metal to me is very samey. i know its not but it sounds like it is to me

 

cant c whats soo elitest about that comment

[Mr_Happy]

Claire DC said:

You're not born with musical experience you know, everyone has to start somewhere.... like when i went to my first hard house club i didnt have any knowledge of the genre or appreciation of it tbh, i enjoyed myself but i couldnt have told you what the name of a tune was or who it was by... the only way you find out if by keep listening to it and goin to the clubs and u pick it up... 4 years down the line and things are totally different!! I love the whole hard house/hard dance scene and i do appreciate it and now i do have experience of it and the clubs but if i hadnt "jumped on the bandwagon" (because lets face it... if u start goin regularly to any genre night, thats what you are doing) then i wouldnt and couldnt have the "experience/appreciation" for it because i wouldnt have been able to get it!! Does that make sense?

 

yes it does and u've completely blown what i said out of proportion. i was mearly commenting on how samey music sounds if ur inexperenced in that field. hardhouse was samey b4 i got into it. i'm sure that was the case 4 u 2. i never said cuz its samey to inexperenced people thay shouldnt listen to it. i just said they dont appretiate it as much as teh more experenced music listeners as they havnt heard enuf of it to understand it. which imo is an excuse to listen to more of it

 

thats y i'm trying to goto more prog nights. i love the sound but it all sound the same to me so i want to hear more of the stuff to gain a better appertiation for it

[Claire DC]

Mr_Happy said:

Claire DC said:

Mr_Happy said:

well to me techno isnt samey, but to the hardhouse heads it is. the problem with techy hardhouse is the hardhouse heads r jumping on the bandwaggon without ne prior experence or appretiation 4 the genre and cant work it out

 

 

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it??

 

erm - not even close. i said if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of a genre then it can sound samey. just like metal to me is very samey. i know its not but it sounds like it is to me

 

cant c whats soo elitest about that comment

 

Sorry, sounded like u was saying it about just people jumping on the bandwagon to me hun.

[Mr_Happy]

Claire DC said:

Mr_Happy said:

Claire DC said:

Mr_Happy said:

well to me techno isnt samey, but to the hardhouse heads it is. the problem with techy hardhouse is the hardhouse heads r jumping on the bandwaggon without ne prior experence or appretiation 4 the genre and cant work it out

 

 

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it??

 

erm - not even close. i said if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of a genre then it can sound samey. just like metal to me is very samey. i know its not but it sounds like it is to me

 

cant c whats soo elitest about that comment

 

Sorry, sounded like u was saying it about just people jumping on the bandwagon to me hun.

 

ah ok.

 

i personally have nowt against bandwaggon jumpers as long as they r willing to appretiate the genre as a whole rather than just follow the masses cuz its 'popular'

[Phil rr]

i have this really wierd thing....i like music...cos...i like it (not at u H, or anything)

 

otherwise I'd like hoovers.

[Mr_Happy]

Phil_raa said:

i have this really wierd thing....i like music...cos...i like it (not at u H, or anything)

 

otherwise I'd like hoovers.

 

i totally agree with u there m8. i really cant understand how poeple call me elitest as i probably have 1 of the widest rangest of dance music tastes on here. thus not eliteing in ne givern field, just enjoying em all

[Wub Wub]

Hard house is dead.

 

 

 

Hard style Bavarian schneider-trance is the new thing!

[Lisa]

wub_wub said:

Hard house is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

It will never die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LiquidEyes]

Claire DC said:

Mr_Happy said:

the problem with techy hardhouse is the hardhouse heads r jumping on the bandwaggon without ne prior experence or appretiation 4 the genre and cant work it out

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it??

I agree with Mr Happy on this one.

 

He didn't say that you have to have experience to listen to a given style of music.

However I do agree that you have to have experience & appreciation to write it.

 

Otherwise you invariably end up imitating all the obvious features (e.g. the minimal / looped sound) without paying attention to the subtleties. It does not follow that you can loop any old [censored], stick a hard house bassline on it and call it "techy hard house"!

[Wub Wub]

liquideyes said:It does not follow that you can loop any old [censored], stick a hard house bassline on it and call it "techy hard house"!

 

ala Farley & BK's Face Facts

[Mr_Happy]

wub_wub said:

Hard house is dead.

 

 

 

Hard style Bavarian schneider-trance is the new thing!

 

i find it strange how people can write off a whole genre like that. trance is supposed to be dead. as is hardcore and prog yet those club night still pack.

[ReBirth]

Mr_Happy said:

i find it strange how people can write off a whole genre like that. trance is supposed to be dead. as is hardcore and prog yet those club night still pack.

 

I agree 100%

[Tucky1562627679]

 

 

 

That comment seemed to be verging on elitist mr

 

So ur saying that if someone doesnt have "experience or appreciation" of the genre that they cant listen to it and enjoy it?? You're not born with musical experience you know, everyone has to start somewhere.... like when i went to my first hard house club i didnt have any knowledge of the genre or appreciation of it tbh, i enjoyed myself but i couldnt have told you what the name of a tune was or who it was by... the only way you find out if by keep listening to it and goin to the clubs and u pick it up... 4 years down the line and things are totally different!! I love the whole hard house/hard dance scene and i do appreciate it and now i do have experience of it and the clubs but if i hadnt "jumped on the bandwagon" (because lets face it... if u start goin regularly to any genre night, thats what you are doing) then i wouldnt and couldnt have the "experience/appreciation" for it because i wouldnt have been able to get it!! Does that make sense?

 

Youve hit the nail on the fuckin head.....!!!!!!