Divorce, sexism & gold-digging

[Alex]

QUOTE (Dawn @ Jul 9 2004, 16:18)

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jul 9 2004, 16:05) Blatantly you guys haven't even read the article. You are clutching at straws with your arguments about the cost of bringing up children. The majority of the money was allocated for her personal use anyway, not for the kids. I want to marry her! I have read it and yes £406k + was awarded to her personally   You tell me how she is supposed to go out and find a job to keep her children perhaps in private education or indeed the style they've became acustomed to, when the choice was made in their marriage for there to be a full time parent brining them up, which just so happened to be her. Just because the marriage has failed why should she have to go and find a job.   Why should their children suffer because of it.   The amount was only reached purely because of him being a footballer, being used to that amount of money week in week out, i'm sure she'd have fell in love with him no matter what career choice he'd made. Children are very adaptable to changing circumstances and there are so many single working mothers that I would hardly think it's impossible to for to be employed and have children.

[Guest]

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Are you guys seriously saying we shouldn't even bother discussing the matter, just because we can't change anything personally? I'm going back to the "random bollocks" forum to discuss my faeces. Sorry, I meant the "general chat" forum.

 

Maybe you need to accept that people have their own opinions on things and not everyone should follow your way of thinking and agree with you.

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Dawn @ Jul 9 2004, 16:18)

You tell me how she is supposed to go out and find a job to keep her children perhaps in private education or indeed the style they've became acustomed to, when the choice was made in their marriage for there to be a full time parent brining them up, which just so happened to be her. Just because the marriage has failed why should she have to go and find a job.

There you go again. Your whole argument is based on a single, incorrect assumption: just because you marry somebody rich, that means you should never have to work again! (even if you split up!)

 

You still haven't explained to me why a person has a "right" to carry on living in this "manner to which they have become accustomed". Gross assumption alert!

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:23)

Maybe you need to accept that people have their own opinions on things and not everyone should follow your way of thinking and agree with you.

WTF?

 

I think it's fine for people to have different opinions, if they are not based on gross assumptions.

 

Also I don't buy this whole "well we can't change the world so why debate it" logic.

[Lisa]

alex, totaly agree, children do adapt etc, but why should they have to when their father can keep them in a better life style??

 

But as Andy is pointing out, this is about her being awarded X amount solely for her & as I say, I think this goes way deeper than the press etc are letting on poss

[Guest]

When you asked for peoples thoughts on this debate, your thoughts maybe somewhat different to other posters, and because of this, you seem get a 'tantrum'.

 

Let's talk about your faeces now.

 

 

 

 

[Lisa]

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jul 9 2004, 16:28)

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:23) Maybe you need to accept that people have their own opinions on things and not everyone should follow your way of thinking and agree with you. WTF?   I think it's fine for people to have different opinions, if they are not based on gross assumptions.   Also I don't buy this whole "well we can't change the world so why debate it" logic. & are you not assuming also, none of us know the full facts Andy & probably never will.   No one is saying not to debate it, just that the courts have made their descion, rightly or wrongly & we can not change that fact. I am agreeing with you, it is a daft amount of cash to be paid each year, but the fact remains, that the courts have decided this in their opinion is a fair amount.

[Lisa]

Andy, how do you think it should be done then??

[Guest]

QUOTE (Lisa @ Jul 9 2004, 16:34)

Andy, how do you think it should be done then??

[Alex]

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:31)

When you asked for peoples thoughts on this debate, your thoughts maybe somewhat different to other posters, and because of this, you seem get a 'tantrum'. Let's talk about your faeces now.

If an opinion can not stand up to an arguement, then it's time to re-evaluate that opinion.

[Guest]

Yes but Alex this is not an argument, it is a debate is it not ?

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:46)

Yes but Alex this is not an argument, it is a debate is it not ?

ARGUMENT

ar·gu·ment, n.

A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate.

[Guest]

QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jul 9 2004, 16:49)

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:46) Yes but Alex this is not an argument, it is a debate is it not ? ARGUMENT ar·gu·ment, n. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. Very clever.   Give yourself a pat on the back.

[LiquidEyes]

QUOTE (Maria @ Jul 9 2004, 16:31)

you seem get a 'tantrum'.

When did I get in a 'tantrum'?

 

The only thing I find frustrating is when people express their opinion without giving any reasoning.

 

If you would like to know the reasoning behind any of my opinions, then please ask away.

 

Every time I point out somebody's assumptions on this thread, they seem to come back with a comment like "well there's no point discussing it".

[Lisa]

an argument or to argue is to disagree, a debate is a disscussion.