The Current State of Hard Dance

[Zen_Master]

I can feel this going epic but there you are.

 

Given the current and rapid decline in the popularity and success of hard house, what do you mob think is going to be next big thing?

 

It strikes me that hard house appears to have seperated into, on one side, a very bad kind of hard trance, and on the other, a slighty dull variant of not particularly hard techno. In the main anyway- im fully aware that there are still a number of tracks coming out that arent fitting either of those descriptions, but the majority are.

 

Hard house, in my eyes anyway, has very little innovation any more, and I really cant remember a new track coming out that really got me hoing since Crazy Pills was released.

 

My opinion is that the end of 2004 will see hh going underground again (which imo will make it better) and the rise of hardcore, based on the premise that a large number of smaller nights are booking hardcore djs, the ones we have in Leeds are doing well (Incision and Cypher) and a mate of mine has just been signed up as a hardcore resident for Sundissential Birmingham.

 

So then, thoughts? Opinions?

[Jimmy]

it must only be doin bad in Leeds then cos every event I goto in London is jam packed and good atmosphere, etc...oh and theres no hardcore pap which is a good thing!

[Zen_Master]

Although to be fair mate, if you are travelling to London for a night your going to the big ones that people travel to.

 

You could say that trance is still as thriving as it was 4 years ago if all you went to was gatecrasher and godskitchen.

[Zen_Master]

and what is wrong with hardcore?

[JoeDrawb]

what's right with it ?

[Maria]

JoeDrawb said:

what's right with it ?

 

Hahaha.

[CreamyC]

JoeDrawb said:

what's right with it ?

 

Good point. But then its down to individual tastes.

[Maria]

CreamyC said:

 

Good point. But then its down to individual tastes.

 

Bingo.

[JoeDrawb]

i know i was only messin

[Chris Hutchinson]

Zen_Master said:

My opinion is that the end of 2004 will see hh going underground again (which imo will make it better) and the rise of hardcore, based on the premise that a large number of smaller nights are booking hardcore djs, the ones we have in Leeds are doing well (Incision and Cypher) and a mate of mine has just been signed up as a hardcore resident for Sundissential Birmingham.

 

So then, thoughts? Opinions?

 

Hixxy's RAVER BABY label apparantly sells more then Incentive.... I would say hardcore is still a VERY BIG force in the dance scene....

[Guest]

I love hardcore, but the events drive me fooking barmy, with all the horns, whistles etc!!! OH & SOME MC'S!!!

[Maria]

miss_diddy said:

OH & SOME MC'S!!!

haha init.

 

I have heard some wikid hardcore stuff and have looooads of MP3s on my pc. But the MC's spoil it FAR FAR to much.

[Jimmy]

ive nothing against hardcore im just not into hard house nights havin a hardcore room.

[Chris Hutchinson]

Captain_Cunted said:

ive nothing against hardcore im just not into hard house nights havin a hardcore room.

 

i kind of agree, unless there are 4 rooms or sumat like that... other then the bpm difference, there aint a lot to set it aside from hard dance at all

 

now a room going from hard dance to hardcore on the otherhand gets a big from me - not enough progression in clubs at all!

[Jimmy]

Chris_Hutchinson said:

Captain_Cunted said:

ive nothing against hardcore im just not into hard house nights havin a hardcore room.

 

i kind of agree, unless there are 4 rooms or sumat like that... other then the bpm difference, there aint a lot to set it aside from hard dance at all

 

now a room going from hard dance to hardcore on the otherhand gets a big from me - not enough progression in clubs at all!

 

not too kean on hardcore at all at a HH night unless it sounds like hard house on the wrong speed I hate freeform/cheezcore