The Current State of Hard Dance

[cheeky_chick1562629398]

Phil_B said:

depending on the person and their musical preferences the 'current state of hard dance' will be different for everyone. just because a few people don't like a certain style of music doesn't in fact mean there is anything wrong with the scene at all.

 

these comments....'the hard dance/trance/house scene is [censored]' are only based on personal feelings towards the different styles. everybodys tastes in music change but i do fail to see why these people then have to announce that the music they once liked is '[censored]'

 

it may be for that individual but there are many people who will disagree. personally, i feel no-one is right or wrong in a discussion like this....its all very individual

 

i agree.it does piss me off when ppl go on about how [censored] a nite is when its just a case of doin to much of the same thing,its bound to get boring after a while.

hard dance had lost its sparkle slightly to me but i realise that after doin the same events almost every wkend for 3 yrs its gonna happen.

some hardcore,freeform and nu energy is a refreshing change.

 

 

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cheeky_chick said:

Phil_B said:

depending on the person and their musical preferences the 'current state of hard dance' will be different for everyone. just because a few people don't like a certain style of music doesn't in fact mean there is anything wrong with the scene at all.

 

these comments....'the hard dance/trance/house scene is [censored]' are only based on personal feelings towards the different styles. everybodys tastes in music change but i do fail to see why these people then have to announce that the music they once liked is '[censored]'

 

it may be for that individual but there are many people who will disagree. personally, i feel no-one is right or wrong in a discussion like this....its all very individual

 

i agree.it does piss me off when ppl go on about how [censored] a nite is when its just a case of doin to much of the same thing,its bound to get boring after a while.

hard dance had lost its sparkle slightly to me but i realise that after doin the same events almost every wkend for 3 yrs its gonna happen.

some hardcore,freeform and nu energy is a refreshing change.

 

 

& some new DJ's!!

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CreamyC said:

 

Most the people that post in here funnily enough.

 

Dont think anyone is claiming to be music experts, just typing their opinions of the specific genres they are into, which I find interesting & knowlegable as I really dont know to much about music, except how it sounds to my lug holes!!

[LiquidEyes]

Chris_Hutchinson said:

difference between hardcore and freeform is that freeform is a lot more 'serious' - compare karim and lisa pinup styles of hardhouse and thats kinda how it applies to the 2...

 

hardcore is (usually!) a lot more fun (or 'cheesy' as a lot of people name it) whilst freeform is a lot more fullon - usually based around the huge 303 riffs you often find...

You've proved my point entirely. What is the point of giving something a completely different name just because it is a bit more/less cheesy, or has a few 303 sounds?!

 

Back to my earlier example: tech house can be uplifting or dark; funky or energetic; intense or laid-back; it can be quirky/techy/dubby or housey/tribal; it can be influenced by progressive and/or electro and/or deep house...

 

My point is, good tech house DJs embrace all of these styles, but we don't feel the need to pigeonhole every little sub-genre.

 

Same goes for progressive house, breakbeat, trance ... so what is so special about hard dance that it requires 50,000 different sub-genres?

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liquideyes said:

Chris_Hutchinson said:

difference between hardcore and freeform is that freeform is a lot more 'serious' - compare karim and lisa pinup styles of hardhouse and thats kinda how it applies to the 2...

 

hardcore is (usually!) a lot more fun (or 'cheesy' as a lot of people name it) whilst freeform is a lot more fullon - usually based around the huge 303 riffs you often find...

You've proved my point entirely. What is the point of giving something a completely different name just because it is a bit more/less cheesy, or has a few 303 sounds?!

 

Back to my earlier example: tech house can be uplifting or dark; funky or energetic; intense or laid-back; it can be quirky/techy/dubby or housey/tribal; it can be influenced by progressive and/or electro and/or deep house...

 

My point is, good tech house DJs embrace all of these styles, but we don't feel the need to pigeonhole every little sub-genre.

 

Same goes for progressive house, breakbeat, trance ... so what is so special about hard dance that it requires 50,000 different sub-genres?

 

You say this Andy but you do get acid techno, progressive trance etc & to me that is sub genre is it not???

[LiquidEyes]

miss_diddy said:

liquideyes said:

My point is, good tech house DJs embrace all of these styles, but we don't feel the need to pigeonhole every little sub-genre.

 

Same goes for progressive house, breakbeat, trance ... so what is so special about hard dance that it requires 50,000 different sub-genres?

 

You say this Andy but you do get acid techno, progressive trance etc & to me that is sub genre is it not???

I don't even know what acid techno is, but as far as I am aware, most of the techno sub-genres are at the hard end of the spectrum, as per my point! (acid/industrial etc)

 

Name one non-hard sub-genre of techno...? (tech-house and electro are offshoots of techno but very different styles)

 

I have issues with the name progressive house too; it started out as a "more cool" rebellion against the epic / self-indulgent / anthemic trance, but admittedly a lot of supposed progressive trance isn't all that different IMHO!

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Do you know what Andy i dont really know who is wrong or who is right & TBH I dont really care, IMO if I hear music I like then so what if it's a sub-genre or whatever, does it really matter aslong as it is appealling to the ear!!!

[LiquidEyes]

Agreed re "does it really matter". Good music is good music. That is exactly the reason I question the need for so many sub-genres of hard dance. People need to get a bit more open-minded and stop pigeonholing.

[Chris Hutchinson]

liquideyes said:

 

You've proved my point entirely. What is the point of giving something a completely different name just because it is a bit more/less cheesy, or has a few 303 sounds?!

 

blame mixmag - they seem to invent new genres every month!

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which is why I just categorize it as Hard dance

[LittleMissLoud]

liquideyes said:

You've proved my point entirely. What is the point of giving something a completely different name just because it is a bit more/less cheesy, or has a few 303 sounds?!

 

Back to my earlier example: tech house can be uplifting or dark; funky or energetic; intense or laid-back; it can be quirky/techy/dubby or housey/tribal; it can be influenced by progressive and/or electro and/or deep house...

 

My point is, good tech house DJs embrace all of these styles, but we don't feel the need to pigeonhole every little sub-genre.

 

Same goes for progressive house, breakbeat, trance ... so what is so special about hard dance that it requires 50,000 different sub-genres?

 

You are the man liquid eyes!! I agree, why create a different genre names for what are essentially just different componants of the the same genre?

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This thread has been edited, and the last few posts have been deleted as I feel it was straying off the beaten track.

 

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