CTW Members LTM Posted July 13, 2004 Author CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (Ian Cashman @ Jul 13 2004, 18:01) well it was probably obvious from the start that you were gonna hate it, so if i was gonna be remotely upset by it, do you HONESTLY think i would have posted the fucking link?????? come on.... if were gonna slag each other at least stay true to the rules of engagement?? do you HONESTLY think you are bothering me in the slightest with your comments? The way you reply to everything I say with long yawn inducing breeze suggests yes. Quote http://www.myspace.com/jamesdownie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW DJs Ian Cashman Posted July 13, 2004 CTW DJs Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (LTM @ Jul 13 2004, 17:59) QUOTE (Lisa @ Jul 13 2004, 17:58) I think maybe you are being abit touchy!! Just let it go over your head if you feel it was to wind you up, simple really, if not take on board what he has said, have another listen, see if anything he has pointed out can be made better & get on with it, it's a message board, do not take it so damn personal  Why don't you listen to my tunes? I'm asking for feedback, any feedback will do as long as it's not a mindless free dig. a mindless free dig would be this.... 'Your tune is fucking crap' i didnt say that. i told you EXACTLY why it was crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Promotors Lisa Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Promotors Share Posted July 13, 2004 I have a listen, sounds ok to me, but im not into, how rifts flow or build etc etc, im merely a wee clubber who gets on the dance floor if a tune grips me, so maybe im not the best choice of person to comment Quote Techno, Techno, Techno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members LTM Posted July 13, 2004 Author CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 Ian Ian Ian don't bullshit a bullshitter. You know it was a great oppertunity for you to get a free dig in. I like the little touch of class at the end of your first post there. "Hope that was constructive enough" with a little rage inducing happy smiley. Get out of here Ian. Quote http://www.myspace.com/jamesdownie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Promotors Lisa Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Promotors Share Posted July 13, 2004 WILL YOU GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF PLEASE!!! Quote Techno, Techno, Techno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW DJs Ian Cashman Posted July 13, 2004 CTW DJs Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (LTM @ Jul 13 2004, 18:03) QUOTE (Ian Cashman @ Jul 13 2004, 18:01) do you HONESTLY think you are bothering me in the slightest with your comments? The way you reply to everything I say with long yawn inducing breeze suggests yes. well it seems this is how its gonna be. The trouble with argueing with idiots is that they are too stupid to realise when the other person has a valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW DJs Ian Cashman Posted July 13, 2004 CTW DJs Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (LTM @ Jul 13 2004, 18:06) with a little rage inducing happy smiley. Granted. But the tune was still crap. I do give praise where its deserved tho in the music department so do as Lisa says and get over yourself. Hehe...'Rage inducing'. I like that. Mission accomplished. Im off to do some bedroom DJing now. I best get improve before october eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kether Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Personally, I think it's rubbish. The riff is so fucking annoying, it sounds like music for an arcade driving game. If it came on in a club I'd throw my shoe at the DJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members nuthead53 Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) theres alot of annoying sounds added to this. i think the background vmm a vmm sound should be more emphasised with a kinda up and down sound to it, if you know what i mean? i think you need to go back and look at some of the samples you have added which are abit ott. i wouldn't want to hear this in a club, but i think theres potential there. oh and in the early 3 minutes, some of the changes in direction of sound are shockingly shite, they really dont sound good. so in conclusion i think its got potential it just really needs a good tidy up, getting rid of alot of the bad choices. its hard to explain what i would do, because all i can is make the sounds and not really explain what part i think should be changed. Neway ive tried to be constructive. oh and ian, i like your chune, it doesent sound like someone has just found some new samples that they want to put in....... its not exactly to my taste, but i can apreciate it for not sounding shite Edited July 13, 2004 by nuthead53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members LiquidEyes Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (LTM @ Jul 13 2004, 17:12) I really really want to hear one of your fucking tracks you big expert you. 1. You don't have to be an expert to criticise somebody's tune. I thought dance music was supposed to be for clubbers - not just for the producing 'elite'? 2. Ok, you didn't like one another's tunes, but at least Ian gave specific criticism! Why don't you explain why you don't like his tune? 3. If you can't take constructive criticism, don't you reckon you're in the wrong game? I will give you tune a listen later and let you know what I think. If I think it's good I will say so; if I think it's shit I will tell you why I think it's shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members russelldust Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 (edited) I've no axe to grind but found the tune bland... your other stuff has generally been a lot better ltm. Edited July 13, 2004 by russelldust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members LiquidEyes Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 P.S. If you want to write music that only 'experts' understand, you're supposed to write techno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members LiquidEyes Posted July 13, 2004 CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 * All those build-ups with the excessive crashes, kick and snare rolls etc, all sound a bit dated. Hard house has moved on a bit dude. * Not so keen on that lead "old skool chord stab" type sound you've used in the main riff. It is quite a punchy sound, but a bit cheesy, and could do with less reverb too - it sounds a bit messy. * Structurally, the track has a bit of a meandering feel to it. Try to make more use out of less material. There are too many different ideas, none of them particularly strong, and it feels like you were making it up as you went along. * The original theme that came in at 1:58 was the strongest, but still based on a lame cliched sound. But I do like the little change in the bassline every fourth bar. * You get onto dodgier ground from 2:38 onwards; the chord progression has some potential but it doesn't sound quite right to me. * Some very dodgy chord progressions going on, especially around half-way through. And the key change at 7:14 is horrendous. * There are fairly some good pads and sweeping effects. E.g. some nice atmospheric background sounds at 7:42-7:46 and 8:02-8:05. * Some of your main percussion loops are a little weak. E.g. the clap loop from 0:13 onwards doesn't sound crisp and punchy enough, sounds like there's too much delay and reverb. I've heard worse in commercial records, but I'm just saying that's an area for improvement. Particularly in more trancey records, a lot of producers neglect the drums. * Another production-related comment: that sweep sample (e.g. at 1:25) has too much bottom-end on it. Hope this is useful. I'll check out some of your other stuff at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 QUOTE (LiquidEyes @ Jul 13 2004, 20:28) P.S. If you want to write music that only 'experts' understand, you're supposed to write techno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTW Members LTM Posted July 13, 2004 Author CTW Members Share Posted July 13, 2004 Hey people I feel i need to apologise. I'm fully aware this ain't the best record I made. It's a year old. I just feel when people review a tune they should try to add constructive commenst even if they don't like it. Like LiquidEyes or Nutheads reviews. I found Ians rather lame and my annoyance follows from him using my productions as a way of harshing me. Quote http://www.myspace.com/jamesdownie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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